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help id'ing ss20 model

Unread postby josh_t » Fri Jun 12, 2009 1:19 am

does anyone know the exact stock specs of a ss20 with the pn: 600-3387-02?
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Re: help id'ing ss20 model

Unread postby josh_t » Fri Jun 12, 2009 1:43 am

come on you guys
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Re: help id'ing ss20 model

Unread postby inomine » Fri Jun 12, 2009 2:39 am

Sun part numbers don't work that way.

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Re: help id'ing ss20 model

Unread postby kramlq » Fri Jun 12, 2009 3:36 am

If you can post a good photo of the internals and the back people might be able to recognise some parts.

BTW.... patience :D Getting an answer less than 30 mins after posting your question is not always possible on a relatively small forum like this.

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Re: help id'ing ss20 model

Unread postby PymbleSoftware » Fri Jun 12, 2009 3:44 am

SS20... hmmm Can't you run NeXTStep on those...

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Re: help id'ing ss20 model

Unread postby josh_t » Fri Jun 12, 2009 5:05 am

i would get pictures on here but i dont have it yet. You see my friend works at a software development company over the mtns. from me and he sed next month his company is decommissioning 2 ss20s and he gets one and i get one. He knows some things like the hds = 22gb. He says he thinks the cpus are quad 50's and he thinks it has 64mb of RAM and he says it has ethernet but i wanted to know know for sure if possible
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Re: help id'ing ss20 model

Unread postby josh_t » Fri Jun 12, 2009 5:08 am

and all google gives me is this crap (scroll down to the black font) http://www.9to5computer.com/dell/Sun-Mi ... x-16-c.htm

more specifically this line: SUN 600-3387-02 RISC,50,SUN SPARCSERVER 20
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Re: help id'ing ss20 model

Unread postby SAQ » Fri Jun 12, 2009 3:28 pm

All Suns have Ethernet ("The Network is the Computer" and all that) It's AMD LANCE 10base(X) though, unless you have a Happy Meal type card installed. SS20s have an onboard framebuffer, but it needs to have special VSIMMS installed to activate it (VRAM + RAMDAC), otherwise use a cheap CG6 or serial console.

For the RAM you'd either need to have the Sun part numbers off of the DSIMMS or be able to look at the OpenBoot banner (shows platform type and memory amount, but not specific details on processor speed (just number and type, SuperSPARC, SuperSPARC-II, HyperSPARC). You can kind of tell the CPUs if you get a picture of the inside, especially the dual SuperSPARC modules (they're twice the width of a single SuperSPARC). If you have a picture you can compare it with the shots at http://mbus.sunhelp.org/modules/index.htm to get a rough idea.

Pymble - you can run NeXTSTEP on SPARCstation 20s provided that you use supported CPUs (SuperSPARC I or II only, no SPARC (SM100) or HyperSPARC modules) and supported graphics (GX/TGX/SX)

Remember for the SS20 you can't run Solaris 10, you'll need Solaris 9 (if you want to go the Sun route, of course Linux, xBSD and NeXTSTEP work).
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Re: help id'ing ss20 model

Unread postby D-EJ915 » Fri Jun 12, 2009 6:11 pm

Solaris 7 is also nice, kind of an awkward border between the 2.5/2.6 (which are also nice) and 8, 7 was the last to have OpenWindows so if you want that then it's the one to get.

SS20s are great systems no matter what the specs though.

There's a 100baseT card which is pretty easy to find on ebay as well as the TurboxGx card which is pretty nice.
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Re: help id'ing ss20 model

Unread postby SAQ » Fri Jun 12, 2009 7:12 pm

D-EJ915 wrote: 7 was the last to have OpenWindows so if you want that then it's the one to get.


Solaris 8 had the OpenWindows packages as an optional install, but the last release to have the "true OpenWindows" SunView+NeWS+X11R4 server included was much earlier, sometime in the pre-Solaris 2.5 era (although all SunOS 4 + OpenLook releases did have it).

Sadly, running old versions of Solaris/SunOS is legally dubious, since per the license agreement the software license self-destructs on the transfer of the machine. I think Solaris 9 is still a free license/download thing, though (although it's hard to tell).
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Re: help id'ing ss20 model

Unread postby D-EJ915 » Fri Jun 12, 2009 7:28 pm

If I remember 8 was the first one they released for free, I believe you could still get the previous versions for free if you were the right person though.
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Re: help id'ing ss20 model

Unread postby josh_t » Sat Jun 13, 2009 3:26 pm

my friend uses it at a software development and they use it everyday as one of there file servers so im sure it has the fast ethernet card and is the turbo gx the best framebuffer to use
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Re: help id'ing ss20 model

Unread postby kramlq » Sat Jun 13, 2009 3:45 pm

D-EJ915 wrote:If I remember 8 was the first one they released for free, I believe you could still get the previous versions for free if you were the right person though.

Though never available to download, Solaris 7 was available at very low cost - probably just enough to cover the media costs. I got a basic Solaris 7 for Intel and SPARC media kit from Sun for $10 plus shipping in late '98. Just to put that into perspective, I was quoted about $200+ for a Solaris 2.6 kit earlier that year.

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Re: help id'ing ss20 model

Unread postby josh_t » Sat Jun 13, 2009 4:08 pm

well i have 8 from my friend and hes sez the systme is quad 50mhz and 64mb of ram will solaris 8 work on this machine
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Re: help id'ing ss20 model

Unread postby D-EJ915 » Sat Jun 13, 2009 4:16 pm

I'd run something earlier than 8 on it, 2.5 or 2.6 would kick ass on there. Mine is 1x75MHz 448MB so quite a bit beefier and 7 works fine on mine, don't have 8 to try.
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