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Maxwell text editor development

Unread postby vishnu » Tue Nov 17, 2015 12:30 am

Yet another update; after what can only be immodestly described as a monumental effort, I have finally prodded Maxwell into compiling and running on my Linux box. On my Octane, it's not quite there yet. I think it's close but I could be fooling myself, everything compiles but the link fails. In my defense, this is a really really weird build system. They init automake but it's not used, which I didn't think the auto tools even allowed. They probably shouldn't. For those who may not recall here's the six page tale of woe from when our close knit little community last tried to crack this nut in 2013:

http://forums.nekochan.net/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=16727644&

Not recommended reading. ;)

Here's a screenshot, it's screaming to the four winds about the fonts but from what I can see on the net that's a known problem with fixes that have been posted, just haven't had time to look into that yet:
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Unread postby Geoman » Tue Nov 17, 2015 3:45 am

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The time has finally come. I think somehow we will enter 'full retro mode', where it isn't feasible anymore to port newer software to SGI. But hey - the guys at Vogons are already there.
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Re: Current State of Nekoware / otherware

Unread postby hamei » Tue Nov 17, 2015 4:27 am

vishnu wrote:Yet another update; after what can only be immodestly described as a monumental effort, I have finally prodded Maxwell into compiling and running ...

Woo Hoo ! Let's go get drunk ! Can't believe it. That's el-coolio, Mr Vish. Congrats !! :P

Geoman wrote:I think somehow we will enter 'full retro mode', where it isn't feasible anymore to port newer software to SGI.

Nah. We can build all the newer software we want. It just won't be gnu-er :lol:

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Re: Current State of Nekoware / otherware

Unread postby jimmer » Tue Nov 17, 2015 5:02 am

vishnu wrote:I have finally prodded Maxwell into compiling and running on my Linux box.


3x Cheer.

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Re: Current State of Nekoware / otherware

Unread postby vishnu » Tue Nov 17, 2015 11:01 am

jimmer wrote:
vishnu wrote:I have finally prodded Maxwell into compiling and running on my Linux box.


3x Cheer.


hamei wrote:
vishnu wrote: yet another update; after what can only be immodestly described as a monumental effort, I have finally prodded Maxwell into compiling and running ...


Woo Hoo ! Let's go get drunk ! Can't believe it. That's el-coolio, Mr Vish. Congrats !! :P


Thanks for the pos reinf guys but unfortunately it's only crashware at the mo, pretty sure it's because of the font issue so should be an easy fix, however the workday called so I"m away from Ice Station Zebra but will be back at it again come the wee hours. We need a vampire smiley... :P
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Re: Current State of Nekoware / otherware

Unread postby vishnu » Wed Nov 18, 2015 12:47 am

Maxwell on IRIX update, still working the issue, still not getting past the final link failure for reasons that are utterly defying me. Not giving up though, come hell or high water I'll eventually crack this bitch... :evil:
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Re: Current State of Nekoware / otherware

Unread postby vishnu » Fri Nov 20, 2015 5:50 pm

Maxwell on IRIX redux: I solved the link problem and now it runs, it gets past the splashscreen and opens the main editor indow, but doing file->open crashes it with a bus error. So ironically hamei's "how do you diagnose a bus error" thread now becomes relevant. :shock:

Run it in the debugger and the debugger says "stopped at ["fgetc.c":21, 0x0fa68bf8]", grep of the source shows fgetc is called in 15 locations, sigh... :|
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Re: Current State of Nekoware / otherware

Unread postby hamei » Fri Nov 20, 2015 6:31 pm

vishnu wrote:Maxwell on IRIX redux: I solved the link problem .. . :|

Take a page from dextrose and show us wooden-hammer kids how :D

I have a few link problems sitting on the back burner, I hate it when you finally get everything to build, then it refuses to link :(
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Re: Current State of Nekoware / otherware

Unread postby vishnu » Fri Nov 20, 2015 7:45 pm

hamei wrote:Take a page from dextrose and show us wooden-hammer kids how :D

I saw that, the man is a legend! :mrgreen:

hamei wrote:I have a few link problems sitting on the back burner, I hate it when you finally get everything to build, then it refuses to link :(

Those link errors stopped me for days... :roll:
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Re: Current State of Nekoware / otherware

Unread postby vishnu » Sat Nov 21, 2015 2:38 am

Got it running and can create files and save them but it crashes immediately after saving; highly non-optimal! :P

But I've spent a lot of time hacking through the codebase and I have to say it is way above the level of your usual attention deficit disorder hackerware:
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Re: Maxwell text editor development

Unread postby jirka » Sun Nov 22, 2015 10:40 am

Thank you very much for your effort! It looks very nice!

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Re: Maxwell text editor development

Unread postby vishnu » Sun Nov 22, 2015 2:07 pm

jirka wrote:Thank you very much for your effort! It looks very nice!

Thanks, but unfortunately this thing is horrible crashware even with the font problem fixed... :?
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Re: Maxwell text editor development

Unread postby hamei » Sun Nov 22, 2015 4:58 pm

vishnu wrote: ... this thing is horrible crashware ... :?

What, does it roll over an internal ten-day clock ? "Source file is newer than the executable" ? This thing dates from 1937, right ?

You'll beat its ass, vish, I'm sure :D
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Re: Maxwell text editor development

Unread postby vishnu » Sun Nov 22, 2015 5:22 pm

hamei wrote:
vishnu wrote: ... this thing is horrible crashware ... :?

What, does it roll over an internal ten-day clock ? "Source file is newer than the executable" ? This thing dates from 1937, right ?

Ha, no 1999! But someone was hacking the source as recently as 2013, in the readme it says "This is a slightly corrected version of the above-mentioned source release. There were missing directories, code errors, and other assorted hiccups. There are still many errors but at least some of the most obvious ones are conditionally corrected. Hugo Chavez, A Better Place, May 2013"

I suspect Hugo Chavez is a nom de plume. :lol:

And the warning is just because I had done some hacking on the source code that I hadn't compiled yet when I ran that debug session. Nice feature that the debugger points that out. :P

hamei wrote:You'll beat its ass, vish, I'm sure :D

I dunno, the bitrot in this thing is deep, every time I squash a crash bug a new one pops up to take it's place, I'm finding it hard to believe anyone ever had this thing running right... :shock:
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Re: Maxwell text editor development

Unread postby hamei » Sun Nov 22, 2015 5:37 pm

vishnu wrote: I'm finding it hard to believe anyone ever had this thing running right... :shock:

There is the true value of open source ... some day, maybe someone can fix the p.o.s. :D

It's still less work than writing a completely new word processor from scratch, yes ?
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