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Re: Cosmo Code 2.5 for 95/NT trial

Unread postby josehill » Mon Feb 09, 2015 1:53 pm

vishnu wrote:I don't know what Microsoft's policy on redistribution of those CDROMs was, my guess, since they were trying to reach as large an audience as possible, would be that they didn't care. Perhaps miod would be so kind as to look at the terms and conditions if he can still read the disk, and report back... :D


Part of the reason that we draw a pretty hard line is that we really don't have the time or inclination to referee software licenses or to make guesses about the thoughts of corporate attorneys.

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Re: Cosmo Code 2.5 for 95/NT trial

Unread postby vishnu » Mon Feb 09, 2015 2:21 pm

josehill wrote:
vishnu wrote:I don't know what Microsoft's policy on redistribution of those CDROMs was, my guess, since they were trying to reach as large an audience as possible, would be that they didn't care. Perhaps miod would be so kind as to look at the terms and conditions if he can still read the disk, and report back... :D


Part of the reason that we draw a pretty hard line is that we really don't have the time or inclination to referee software licenses or to make guesses about the thoughts of corporate attorneys.

Perfectly understandable, that's why (to paraphrase jwz) "I don't use any Microsoft products and neither should you!" :mrgreen:
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Re: Cosmo Code 2.5 for 95/NT trial

Unread postby GL1zdA » Mon Feb 09, 2015 3:36 pm

It works ;)
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Re: Cosmo Code 2.5 for 95/NT trial

Unread postby vishnu » Mon Feb 09, 2015 4:36 pm

Looks like a pretty nice IDE, wonder why the abandoned it... :shock:
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Re: Cosmo Code 2.5 for 95/NT trial

Unread postby uunix » Mon Feb 09, 2015 4:49 pm

vishnu wrote:Looks like a pretty nice IDE, wonder why the abandoned it... :shock:

Does it? eek
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Re: Cosmo Code 2.5 for 95/NT trial

Unread postby hamei » Mon Feb 09, 2015 6:01 pm

vishnu wrote:Looks like a pretty nice IDE, wonder why they abandoned it... :shock:

Because they never wanted it in the first place. If it ain't Mickey, they embrace ! mmmm, kiss-kiss ! extend ! ooh, look at all these cool (non-standard) extensions ! so neato-keano ! exterminate !! oh so sorry, golly gee that's deprecated !

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Re: Cosmo Code 2.5 for 95/NT trial

Unread postby GL1zdA » Mon Feb 09, 2015 10:16 pm

vishnu wrote:Looks like a pretty nice IDE, wonder why the abandoned it... :shock:

It's using the native Windows toolkit, so it's fast and responsive. Haven't tried out the debugger yet. Of course there's no intellisense and no on the fly compilation - two things that make developing programs nowadays much more convenient, but I like the visual designer. Will have to check if I can add my own sample control to the palette.

As for why they abandoned it - I think in the late 90s they didn't knew themselves what they wanted to do and for some reason they feared commoditization of their business - they wanted to sell full stack proprietary workstations for a small niche, when they should have provided CPUs + Graphics hardware and, optionally, software, and look how to enter the consumer market.
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Re: Cosmo Code 2.5 for 95/NT trial

Unread postby vishnu » Mon Feb 09, 2015 11:24 pm

I know, right? SGI had all these great programmers, writing all these great programs, the compilers, the SMP kernel code, the IRIX interactive desktop, the DMediaPro stuff, opengl, this Java thing, but management never budged one iota off their dead asses to support them or find markets for it. Instead they decided to toss all their eggs into the supercomputer basket. Against IBM! And we all saw how that worked out for them...
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Re: Cosmo Code 2.5 for 95/NT trial

Unread postby hamei » Tue Feb 10, 2015 2:02 am

GL1zdA wrote:[ I think in the late 90s they didn't knew themselves what they wanted to do ...

That's a misunderstanding of US business philosophy. They knew exactly what they wanted to do and they succeeded admirably.

Tricky Ricky, Braindead Bob, Bozo Ewald : they took a ship with a billion in cash and rode it round and round the great white bowl, going to parties and filling up their bank accounts until someone pulled the handle. Then they stepped off, while the stockholders, suppliers and people who did the work got flushed.

Ten long years and nobody said a word ....
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Re: Cosmo Code 2.5 for 95/NT trial

Unread postby foetz » Tue Feb 10, 2015 5:44 am

vishnu wrote:Against IBM! And we all saw how that worked out for them...

at the time they offered mips systems ibm didn't play much of a role in the hpc sector and putting their money on that was logical because that's where the big bucks came from. gfx and entertainment was nice but not the main source of the annual revenue. military and scientific projects washed in the dollars and that for many years.
the reasons why they ended up the way they did were quite different but i think we talked about that more than enough here already :P


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