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Unread postPosted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 12:22 pm 
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I don't know if it's possible to port to IRIX, but it's running very well on Haiku - and it is web-kit based:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WebPositive

http://webpositive.haiku-os.org/

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Interesting--obviously named after the old "netpositive" browser for BeOS (I was a Be dev once, with a BeBox and everything.) I've read that the Apple and Google code have a lot of x86 optimizations, and since Haiku is x86, it probably wasn't too hard to port. Since the likelihood of MIPS optimizations in any form is slim-to-none, it would possibly help to look for a non-x86 port of webkit.

One worth looking at might be Origyn Web Browser. Among other platforms it runs on AmigaOS 4.x. It is also based and fairly lightweight. There supposedly exists a GTK and SDL port which could be a good starting point. I don't have MIPSPro yet, but I could try gcc once I get my systems back in fully sorted order.

http://www.sand-labs.org/owb (site seems to be down at the moment!?!)

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Unread postPosted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 1:26 pm 
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ratfink wrote:
Interesting--obviously named after the old "netpositive" browser for BeOS (I was a Be dev once, with a BeBox and everything.) I've read that the Apple and Google code have a lot of x86 optimizations, and since Haiku is x86, it probably wasn't too hard to port. Since the likelihood of MIPS optimizations in any form is slim-to-none, it would possibly help to look for a non-x86 port of webkit.


I don't know all the details of what was done to make it work, but WebKit can be built for both SPARC and x86 Solaris, using the Sun compiler, with the same set of (28) patches - this at least shows that it's not tied to the x86 architecture or GCC. I assume WebPositive itself requires the Haiku desktop and is not portable, but it could be a model for porting WebKit itself and wrapping an IRIX GUI around it.

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Unread postPosted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 3:30 pm 
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Quote:
http://www.sand-labs.org/owb (site seems to be down at the moment!?!)


Here is a site that is not down and offers the Origyn Web Browser for download:
http://strohmayer.org/owb

The site says that the Origyn Web Browser is based on the WebKit rendering engine and it
uses the "Reaction GUI toolkit". I have done a little research about the Reaction GUI.
It lacks a porting layer. Even X11 has a porting layer which explains why it was able to spread
to many different architectures in a short time.

The missing porting layer would create too much work to port the Origyn Web Browser to
sgi workstations.

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Unread postPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 9:23 am 
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Haiku runs on G4 mac minis doesn't it?
Hmm....what about turning a MIPS box into a cloud terminal?

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Make a FLTK port of Webkit, and use that as the basis for a lightweight IRIX browser. It (the FLTK Webkit port) has been done before, so it just needs to be updated to current Webkit and then committed to source management so it has a chance of being kept updated.

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Unread postPosted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 4:35 am 
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ChristTrekker wrote:
Make a FLTK port of Webkit, and use that as the basis for a lightweight IRIX browser. It (the FLTK Webkit port) has been done before, so it just needs to be updated to current Webkit and then committed to source management so it has a chance of being kept updated.


If you're talking about making a new WebKit port and basing a new browser off of it, why would we use a cross-platform toolkit when we could be using ViewKit?

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Unread postPosted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 7:35 am 
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ianj wrote:
If you're talking about making a new WebKit port and basing a new browser off of it, why would we use a cross-platform toolkit when we could be using ViewKit?

If you make it something IRIX-specific, we'll be "stuck" maintaining it ourselves. (The community is small, and shrinking. No way to get around that fact.) If you build it so it's usable on other platforms too, it's more likely to be maintained. I guess it's a question of, do you want to make a great IRIX web brower, or do you want to make a web browser that will run great on IRIX?

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Unread postPosted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 11:30 am 
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Other platforms already have a multitude of web browsers available using their native widget toolkits, so I see very little likelihood of interest in a hypothetical FLTK browser. IRIX needs a great web browser; other platforms already have them, so if something like this is going to come together, we should not make compromises for cross-platform interest that simply isn't there.

One great thing about building it around WebKit would mean that the most complicated part of maintaining the application is being handled somewhere else, so to my knowledge long-term maintenance would mostly be a matter of dropping subsequent releases of WebKit into the GUI application.

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