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Fuel, R14k 600Mhz, 4 GB, V12

Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2016 3:40 pm
by irix7
Found on eBay (with less memory, and a SCSI card not currently installed) for a decent price. After some drama with a stuck fan and the L1 I have it up and running on 6.5.30 with dual 275GB SSDs (using ACARD adaptors). It came with the SGI gigabit card. Just using it to mess around with compilers for now.

hinv -mv

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Location: /hw/module/001c01/node
            IP34 Board: barcode MEB130     part 030-1707-004 rev -C
Location: /hw/module/001c01/node/cpubus/0
        IP34PIMM Board: barcode MSK008     part 030-1836-001 rev -C
Location: /hw/module/001c01/Ibrick/xtalk/13
          ASTODY Board: barcode MNT941     part 030-1726-003 rev -E
Location: /hw/module/001c01/Ibrick/xtalk/14
            IP34 Board: barcode MEB130     part 030-1707-004 rev -C
Location: /hw/module/001c01/Ibrick/xtalk/15
            IP34 Board: barcode MEB130     part 030-1707-004 rev -C
1 600 MHZ IP35 Processor
CPU: MIPS R14000 Processor Chip Revision: 2.4
FPU: MIPS R14010 Floating Point Chip Revision: 2.4
CPU 0 at Module 001c01/Slot 0/Slice A: 600 Mhz MIPS R14000 Processor Chip (enabled)
  Processor revision: 2.4. Scache: Size 4 MB Speed 300 Mhz  Tap 0xa
Main memory size: 4096 Mbytes
Instruction cache size: 32 Kbytes
Data cache size: 32 Kbytes
Secondary unified instruction/data cache size: 4 Mbytes
Memory at Module 001c01/Slot 0: 4096 MB (enabled)
  Bank 0 contains 1024 MB (Premium) DIMMS (enabled)
  Bank 1 contains 1024 MB (Premium) DIMMS (enabled)
  Bank 2 contains 1024 MB (Premium) DIMMS (enabled)
  Bank 3 contains 1024 MB (Premium) DIMMS (enabled)
Integral SCSI controller 0: Version QL12160, low voltage differential
  Disk drive: unit 1 on SCSI controller 0 (unit 1)
  Disk drive: unit 2 on SCSI controller 0 (unit 2)
Integral SCSI controller 1: Version QL12160, single ended
  CDROM: unit 6 on SCSI controller 1
IOC3/IOC4 serial port: tty1
IOC3/IOC4 serial port: tty2
IOC3 parallel port: plp1
Graphics board: V12
Gigabit Ethernet: eg0, module 001c01, pci_bus 1, pci_slot 2, firmware version 12.4.10
Integral Fast Ethernet: ef0, version 1, module 001c01, pci 4
  PCI Adapter ID (vendor 0x1077, device 0x1216) PCI slot 1
  PCI Adapter ID (vendor 0x10a9, device 0x0009) PCI slot 2
  PCI Adapter ID (vendor 0x10a9, device 0x0003) PCI slot 4
  PCI Adapter ID (vendor 0x11c1, device 0x5802) PCI slot 5
HUB in Module 001c01/Slot 0: Revision 2 Speed 200.00 Mhz (enabled)
IP35prom in Module 001c01/Slot n0: Revision 6.210
USB controller: type OHCI


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Graphics board 0 is "ODYSSEY" graphics.
        Managed (":0.0") 1920x1200
        BUZZ version B.1
        PB&J version 1
        128MB memory
                Banks: 4, CAS latency: 3
         Monitor 0 type: DEL -24560
        Channel 0:
         Origin = (0,0)
         Video Output: 1920 pixels, 1200 lines, 60.00Hz (1920x1200_60p)

Re: Fuel, R14k 600Mhz, 4 GB, V12

Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2016 3:58 pm
by uunix
Nice one chap, especially the v12 (I'd like a couple of V12s) find. Welcome the Red club. These take SATA cards also which brings a wealth of options.

And they are snappy at desktop operations.

Re: Fuel, R14k 600Mhz, 4 GB, V12

Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2016 4:01 pm
by vishnu
That's top notch! Glad you got it going... :)

Re: Fuel, R14k 600Mhz, 4 GB, V12

Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2016 4:04 pm
by irix7
uunix wrote:Nice one chap, especially the v12 (I'd like a couple of V12s) find. Welcome the Red club. These take SATA cards also which brings a wealth of options.

And they are snappy at desktop operations.


That's good to know actually. Bootable?

I've got a healthy amount of ZFS-backed NFS storage for bulk data.

Re: Fuel, R14k 600Mhz, 4 GB, V12

Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2016 4:10 pm
by uunix
irix7 wrote:
uunix wrote:Nice one chap, especially the v12 (I'd like a couple of V12s) find. Welcome the Red club. These take SATA cards also which brings a wealth of options.

And they are snappy at desktop operations.


That's good to know actually. Bootable?

I've got a healthy amount of ZFS-backed NFS storage for bulk data.

They will only boot from built in SCSI unfortunately as far as I know.

Re: Fuel, R14k 600Mhz, 4 GB, V12

Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2016 4:19 pm
by irix7
uunix wrote:
irix7 wrote:
uunix wrote:Nice one chap, especially the v12 (I'd like a couple of V12s) find. Welcome the Red club. These take SATA cards also which brings a wealth of options.

And they are snappy at desktop operations.


That's good to know actually. Bootable?

I've got a healthy amount of ZFS-backed NFS storage for bulk data.

They will only boot from built in SCSI unfortunately as far as I know.


Do'h! I suppose there's probably some Ultra320 controller that's bootable so I can get a bit more out of the SSD and adaptor. It's so fast as it is though, so I probably won't bother hunting one down.

Fun weirdness to see since the adaptor apparently passes the vendor string through but uses some hard coded serial number:

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[clark] /root% df -h
Filesystem             Type  Size   use  avail  %use  Mounted on
/dev/root               xfs  256G  4.9G   251G    2%  /
/dev/dsk/dks0d2s7       xfs  256G   43G   213G   17%  /xfs

[clark] /root% diskpatch -v
sc0d1l0:  Disk         ATA     Crucial_CT275MX3114P  Serial: 164714C0
sc0d2l0:  Disk         ATA     Crucial_CT275MX3114P  Serial: 164714C0

Re: Fuel, R14k 600Mhz, 4 GB, V12

Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2016 12:39 am
by jan-jaap
irix7 wrote:Do'h! I suppose there's probably some Ultra320 controller that's bootable so I can get a bit more out of the SSD and adaptor. It's so fast as it is though, so I probably won't bother hunting one down.

Don't think so, there's only one U160 chip supported, the QLogic QL12160. And only U320 chip, the LSI 53C1030. They have their own drivers, but only the QLogic driver is included in the PROM.

Fun weirdness to see since the adaptor apparently passes the vendor string through but uses some hard coded serial number:

I've wondered about that in the past, because I've seen the same in my Origin 350: viewtopic.php?f=14&t=16724207#p7330958

But recently one of the SATA disks failed and I replaced it with an identical Samsung disk, except from a different batch, and now it reports:

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# diskpatch -v
sc0d1l0:  Disk         SEAGATE ST3146855LC     0003  Serial: 3LN1GYFG
sc0d2l0:  Disk         COMPAQ  BD30088279      HPB4  Serial: 3KR15PE7
sc5d1l0:  Disk         ATA     SAMSUNG HD204UI 0001  Serial: S2H7J9BB
sc5d2l0:  Disk         ATA     SAMSUNG HD204UI 0001  Serial: S2HGJ1BZ

Maybe that serial is really a batch number, it's too short to be an actual, unique serial number.

Re: Fuel, R14k 600Mhz, 4 GB, V12

Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2016 2:37 am
by Trippynet
Nice little system you've got there! When they're working properly, Fuels are snappy little things.

Re: Fuel, R14k 600Mhz, 4 GB, V12

Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2016 2:37 am
by japes
Sweet, is this the one that went for $320 from the Salvation Army the other day? I was eyeing it but was hoping it would stay a little lower. The V12 is a nice touch though.

jan-jaap wrote:Maybe that serial is really a batch number, it's too short to be an actual, unique serial number.

Truncated serial number maybe?

Re: Fuel, R14k 600Mhz, 4 GB, V12

Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2016 8:59 am
by irix7
japes wrote:Sweet, is this the one that went for $320 from the Salvation Army the other day? I was eyeing it but was hoping it would stay a little lower. The V12 is a nice touch though.


It's not. I saw that one too after I got this one. I paid slightly more than that for this one but the seller is a forum member here (not sure who) and they replaced both the time keeping and battery chips already.

jan-jaap wrote:Maybe that serial is really a batch number, it's too short to be an actual, unique serial number.

japes wrote:Truncated serial number maybe?


It doesn't appear to match the serial number of the drives at all in my case...

Re: Fuel, R14k 600Mhz, 4 GB, V12

Posted: Mon Dec 26, 2016 1:41 pm
by Hombre71
Can I ask where you bought the Acard's?

Re: Fuel, R14k 600Mhz, 4 GB, V12

Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2016 10:32 am
by irix7
Hombre71 wrote:Can I ask where you bought the Acard's?


I got them from Amazon where, it appears, A-CARD is selling directly:

For SCA (O2, Tezro, etc): https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00471X532
Note: O2 requires setting the "force single-ended" jumper. Worked with no jumpers in the Tezro.

For 68-pin (Fuel): https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001EHBSHM
Note: Worked with the right SCSI ID set in the Fuel.

For 50-pin (Indy, Indigo2, etc): https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00471ZSVE
Note: I haven't tested this configuration but I have some of these if someone wants to loan me a system to test it out. ;)

These ship with jumpers on all of the SCSI ID pins. For SCA systems remove them and let the bay assign the ID. For HD68 assign manually using the jumpers. I've been using Crucial SSDs near but under 300GB in size since that was about the largest SCSI drive I saw with these interfaces and I wanted to avoid a potential compatibility issue.

Re: Fuel, R14k 600Mhz, 4 GB, V12

Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2016 9:19 am
by Hombre71
Thanks. Happy new year,all!