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 Post subject: CrystalEyes Cheaper?
Unread postPosted: Sun Dec 19, 2010 2:05 am 
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I keep hearing horror stories about the CE glasses being hundreds of dollars and emitters costing an arm and a leg. It looks like they have become somewhat more affordable:

http://www.reald.com/Content/Products-Ordering.aspx

$175 for the glasses, $90 for the E2 emitter (3-pin mini-DIN).

Still pricey considering the (wired) VR-100G glasses are ~$10 and maybe $7-$10 for an appropriate adapter circuit, but much better than the $700+ for just silly glasses.


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 Post subject: Re: CrystalEyes Cheaper?
Unread postPosted: Sun Dec 19, 2010 4:46 am 
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Define for me CE..

I wrote the wiki entry for stereo..
http://www.nekochan.net/wiki/index.php/Stereographics_on_SGI_systems.


Not all glasses run on the same frequency I have 3 or 4 pair of the Crystal eyes that run fine on the Octane but.. I also have 3 pair of 3D glasses for a 58 inch Samsung and 3D Bluray. The Crystal Eyes flicker but the rate is quite slow ... so it must be operating at a harmonic of TV xmiter..

Are you comparing like for like...?

I never paid that much for a crystal eyes pair and Samsungs were a free bonus on another deal..

I'd never pay more than a $100 for stereo glasses.. $700 is just waaay out of my league.
Oh, and if anyone wants to sell a emitter with a with the correct cable for a Tezro my offer is $50..

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 Post subject: Re: CrystalEyes Cheaper?
Unread postPosted: Sun Dec 19, 2010 11:00 pm 
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First off, RealD bought the company StereoGraphics (which made the CrystalEyes glasses). CE = CrystalEyes. The model numbers used on their website are CE4 and CE5, for example.

Here records the glasses price at $795
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=14118

Then $395
viewtopic.php?f=8&t=16808

And now they are even less. ($175)

I think the important note here isn't that they are still too expensive (what retail stuff isn't?), but the price has gone down over time, and will likely continue to do so as long as NVidia keeps pushing stereoscopic graphics and the public demands more 3D movies, etc. I didn't post this in hardware since I was thinking more in terms of the trends and how stereoscopic 3D seems to be on the rise again, and accordingly, prices falling. I find it a fascinating trend and I wonder if there is some research to be done in that area in terms of extracting real value out of it beyond "immersion".

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Nice compilation of stereo information!
It could use a bit of updating in the connectors area (looks to be copied from a page I read somewhere else). For example, it lists "Octane" as having DB-9 stereo, when it is really just the MGRAS boards that use DB-9, which is the same reason the Indigo2 IMPACT uses DB-9 while Indigo2 ExtremeGraphics uses a mini-DIN. I'd think it would be more appropriate to associate a graphics subsystem with a connector type rather than workstation, especially in this day of Frankenstations. :D

The VPro boards (verified on V6,V8,V12) use the same mini-DIN as the ExtremeGraphics. Since the Tezro uses V12 gfx, and my Fuel with V12 has the same mini-DIN, I'd say it's safe to assume the Tezro would use the same emitter I mentioned (E2) that was $90.

I'm not exactly surprised that two different products didn't sync perfectly. I think it is a while yet before you'll be able to take glasses from Company A and use it with Company B's product.


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 Post subject: Re: CrystalEyes Cheaper?
Unread postPosted: Sun Dec 19, 2010 11:09 pm 
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I think I misinterpreted your original post, now I think it reads more like "yay, things are improving on the price for this stuff"..

figgles wrote:
Nice compilation of stereo information!
It could use a bit of updating in the connectors area (looks to be copied from a page I read somewhere else). For example, it lists "Octane" as having DB-9 stereo, when it is really just the MGRAS boards that use DB-9, which is the same reason the Indigo2 IMPACT uses DB-9 while Indigo2 ExtremeGraphics uses a mini-DIN. I'd think it would be more appropriate to associate a graphics subsystem with a connector type rather than workstation, especially in this day of Frankenstations. :D

The VPro boards (verified on V6,V8,V12) use the same mini-DIN as the ExtremeGraphics. Since the Tezro uses V12 gfx, and my Fuel with V12 has the same mini-DIN, I'd say it's safe to assume the Tezro would use the same emitter I mentioned (E2) that was $90.


Thanks. Now that I have feedback on the page I shall get around to updating it one day.. I take information from everywhere I can .. I don't own every model SGI and wrote that before I'd ever seen a V12, so I copied stuff from where I could to fill in my lack of knowledge.. Its free for anyone else to update too.

oh, and if someone could send me a v6 or v8 for my xbow 1.3 Octane for me to verify... ;)
... or an xbow 1.4 and v12 :D

When I was finishing university, I got a part time job in the psych department doing stereographics programming on Windows 3.1 or 3.11 in Turbo Pascal with a DAC card in the 486 and other stuff in Borland C++ for Windows.


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