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Assistance - IRIX 5.3 and Indy

Unread postby kshuff » Fri Jan 23, 2015 9:12 pm

Been a long time since I messed with IRIX 5.3 and find myself having a problem loading a fresh install onto my Indy R4600 with a 9Gb drive. I keep getting...

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ERROR: Installation requires to much space

I ran "fx" on the drive, did label - create - all, sync'd and exited. Loaded the CD, I tried both the vanilla IRIX 5.3 disc and IRIX 5.3 for Indy including R5000 with the same results, go into inst and install default, no conflicts, hit go, then error. I've gone into "fx" and repartitioned as a root drive, then usr drive, with same results, even tried resizing the partitions with no luck. What be I doing wrong?
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Re: Assistance - IRIX 5.3 and Indy

Unread postby josehill » Fri Jan 23, 2015 9:28 pm

If you're using EFS, are any of your partitions larger than 8 GB? Did you make new filesystems in addition to repartitioning?

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Re: Assistance - IRIX 5.3 and Indy

Unread postby jpstewart » Sat Jan 24, 2015 8:04 am

Is fx automatically creating seperate / and /usr partitions with 5.3? I saw a similar error when first trying to install 4.0.5 on an Indigo. The default size of / was tiny and a full install of everything needed about 1.5 times the alloted space. So I used fx to manually repartition the drive using twice the default amount of space for / and everything worked. IIRC when you're in inst if you do a "list" between "install default" and "go" at the end of the output it will tell you how much free space you need on each of / and /usr so that you can check to see if that's your problem.
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Re: Assistance - IRIX 5.3 and Indy

Unread postby kshuff » Sat Jan 24, 2015 8:40 am

I am aware of the 8Gb filesystem limitation with efs. Fx was creating the partitions automatically and I did try manually increasing the size of the partitions, maybe I didn't increase it enough, I'll give it another try. Thanks for the help.
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Re: Assistance - IRIX 5.3 and Indy

Unread postby kshuff » Sat Jan 24, 2015 12:32 pm

Still can't figure it out. In inst after doing an install default, then list, I get...

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Disk space summary (Kbytes)                 /          /root
         Selections net change              0        252267+
         Space available                    10771      22363


The default partitions in fx are...

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       part type          cyls               blocks                          Megabytes             (base+size)
       
        0: efs               2+10           9480+47400                         5+23
        1: raw             12+17         56880+80580                        28+39
        6: efs              29+7474    137460+35426760                   67+17298
        7: efs               2+7501        9480+35554740                    5+17361
        8: volhdr           0+2                  0+9480                          0+5
       10: volume         0+7503             0+35564220                    0+17365


After the miniroot is copied to disk and installation starts I get...

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root on dev 128,17; boot swap file on /dev/swap    swplo 50000

              Mounting Filesystems
             
                  /dev/miniroot         on /
                  /dev/dsk/dks0d1s0  on /root



I've increased the size of the root partition from 23Mb to 260Mb and still come up with the installation requires to much space error. Can anyone suggest a partition layout that will work since I'm obviously missing something here.
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Re: Assistance - IRIX 5.3 and Indy

Unread postby jpstewart » Sat Jan 24, 2015 4:30 pm

kshuff wrote:Still can't figure it out. In inst after doing an install default, then list, I get...

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Disk space summary (Kbytes)                 /          /root
         Selections net change              0        252267+
         Space available                    10771      22363


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root on dev 128,17; boot swap file on /dev/swap    swplo 50000

              Mounting Filesystems
             
                  /dev/miniroot         on /
                  /dev/dsk/dks0d1s0  on /root

Neither of those show a /usr partition being mounted nor how much space is required on it. So it looks to me like everything is being installed to / instead of split across / and /usr. I think you've missed a step in fx, but I'm not familiar enough with it to know exactly which step. I think that /dev/dsk/dks0d1s6 should be your /usr partition, but either the filesystem wasn't created correctly or it hasn't been mounted correctly.
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Re: Assistance - IRIX 5.3 and Indy

Unread postby kshuff » Sat Jan 24, 2015 7:18 pm

Yup, that's it. Didn't miss a step in fx, the filesystem isn't being made by the installation. When inst came up I escaped to a shell and ran mkfs /dev/dsk/dks0d1s6 and then mounted the filesystem under /root/usr and proceeded with the software installation, 5.3 is being installed now. Something so easy can turn out to be something so hard.

jpstewart wrote:Neither of those show a /usr partition being mounted nor how much space is required on it. So it looks to me like everything is being installed to / instead of split across / and /usr. I think you've missed a step in fx, but I'm not familiar enough with it to know exactly which step. I think that /dev/dsk/dks0d1s6 should be your /usr partition, but either the filesystem wasn't created correctly or it hasn't been mounted correctly.
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Re: Assistance - IRIX 5.3 and Indy

Unread postby josehill » Sat Jan 24, 2015 9:31 pm

kshuff wrote:Yup, that's it. Didn't miss a step in fx, the filesystem isn't being made by the installation. When inst came up I escaped to a shell and ran mkfs /dev/dsk/dks0d1s6 and then mounted the filesystem under /root/usr and proceeded with the software installation, 5.3 is being installed now. Something so easy can turn out to be something so hard.

Sorry that I wasn't clearer before - that's exactly what I was driving at when I asked, "Did you make new filesystems in addition to repartitioning?"

After running into fs problems enough times, an explicit, manual mkfs or mkfs_xfs step has long been a part of my personal recipe for a fresh IRIX installation, whether 5.x or 6.x. I'm glad to hear that things got sorted out.

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Re: Assistance - IRIX 5.3 and Indy

Unread postby foetz » Sat Jan 24, 2015 10:18 pm

josehill wrote:an explicit, manual mkfs or mkfs_xfs step has long been a part of my personal recipe

same here and not only for irix. if you wanna rule something out do it yourself :D

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Re: Assistance - IRIX 5.3 and Indy

Unread postby kshuff » Mon Jan 26, 2015 12:37 pm

Got it installed but now it's hanging up booting, getting an error about the hostname not being set and can't find lboot. The fun continues.
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Re: Assistance - IRIX 5.3 and Indy

Unread postby foetz » Mon Jan 26, 2015 3:44 pm

kshuff wrote:Got it installed but now it's hanging up booting, getting an error about the hostname not being set and can't find lboot. The fun continues.

how did you install it?

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Re: Assistance - IRIX 5.3 and Indy

Unread postby kshuff » Mon Jan 26, 2015 4:33 pm

miniroot

install default

conflicts

go

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kshuff wrote:Got it installed but now it's hanging up booting, getting an error about the hostname not being set and can't find lboot. The fun continues.

how did you install it?
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Re: Assistance - IRIX 5.3 and Indy

Unread postby foetz » Mon Jan 26, 2015 8:48 pm

kshuff wrote:miniroot

install default

conflicts

go

okay, did it show any conflicts?
anyway no hostname at the first boot is normal. do you get to the desktop at all? or at least a single user shell?
if so just install the missing stuff. lboot for example is part of eoe1 and the required other stuff for building a kernel is part of compiler_eoe

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Re: Assistance - IRIX 5.3 and Indy

Unread postby kshuff » Tue Jan 27, 2015 8:59 am

No conflicts, no desktop, no shell, just hung at the errors. I did get it working finally, it was a problem with filesystems and how they were being mounted. When I was in inst --> admin I ran mkfs which remade the filesystems on /dev/dsk/dks0d1s0 and /dev/dsk/dks0d1s6 and mounted them. I installed again and everything went fine, system restarted and desktop came up. Don"t understand the problems, it"s a simple procedure I've performed a million times in the past.

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kshuff wrote:miniroot

install default

conflicts

go

okay, did it show any conflicts?
anyway no hostname at the first boot is normal. do you get to the desktop at all? or at least a single user shell?
if so just install the missing stuff. lboot for example is part of eoe1 and the required other stuff for building a kernel is part of compiler_eoe
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