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Pretty Silly Question ("IRIX for dummies"...)

Unread postby The radar guy » Thu Apr 07, 2011 1:59 am

Hello everybody,
I must work with IRIX 6.5 running on an O² platform.

Two questions.

1- I accidentally closed the Console icon (which appears on the desktop every time the system is booted). The Toolchest is still visible but I can't find any menu option to open the Console icon again. How do I invoke it without rebooting the system? (sigh...)

2- I opened the Desk Clock from the Desktop tools, but then I am unable to close the damn thing (just the opposite problem as above!). In the "Desktop User's Guide", page 173, I read:

Desk Clock appears on the screen as a borderless window. To display a window menu, position the cursor over Desk Clock, hold down the Alt key, and press the right mouse button. This lets you size, move, or quit Desk Clock, or use any other feature of the window menu.


It does not work. No such menu appears. :shock:
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Re: Pretty Silly Question ("IRIX for dummies"...)

Unread postby duck » Thu Apr 07, 2011 2:17 am

I don't use the default Toolchest anymore, but there should an option there somewhere to "Start New Console". As for the clock, that's odd... Still, it does have the window manager's border on the edge? hold the right mouse button on that on that. If all else fails, just bring up a terminal and kill it. Come to think of it, the window manager menus don't stay open with just a click, you have to hold the button....

Edit: Just for you, I checked with the default toolchest; it's System > Utilities > Start New Console

Edit2: Also, (left) alt-space brings up the menu.

Bit of a scatterbrain today I fear, sorry :-)
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Re: Pretty Silly Question ("IRIX for dummies"...)

Unread postby The radar guy » Thu Apr 07, 2011 3:08 am

Thank you for the hint... but the F@*%ing clock does not close!! I tried left Alt+space, tried left Alt+F4, but nothing happens... To kill the damn thing from the console requires to know the PID associated with it:

SYNOPSIS

kill [-signal] pid. . .
kill -l


I tried the -l option, to try to spot the clock:

When invoked with the -l option, kill will print a list of symbolic
signal names. The details of the kill are described in kill(2). For
example, if process number 0 is specified, all processes in the process
group are signaled.


But it returns a list of umpteen acronyms, 3 to 6 character long, among which I am unable to find something resembling a clock... uhm... :roll:
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Re: Pretty Silly Question ("IRIX for dummies"...)

Unread postby duck » Thu Apr 07, 2011 3:30 am

Interesting. I seem to recall something about selecting which mode the window manager runs in, but alas all I get are memory faults. :-)
In any case, to list the processes running use ps -u username where username is your user name of course.
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Re: Pretty Silly Question ("IRIX for dummies"...)

Unread postby jan-jaap » Thu Apr 07, 2011 4:04 am

The radar guy wrote:Thank you for the hint... but the F@*%ing clock does not close!!

right click on the window -> exit

or the generic: right click on the window border -> exit

that was easy :mrgreen:
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Re: Pretty Silly Question ("IRIX for dummies"...)

Unread postby The radar guy » Thu Apr 07, 2011 4:09 am

jan-jaap wrote:
The radar guy wrote:Thank you for the hint... but the F@*%ing clock does not close!!

right click on the window -> exit

or the generic: right click on the window border -> exit

that was easy :mrgreen:


As I explained above, there is NO border, and right-clicking (with or without Alt) does not produce anything!
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Re: Pretty Silly Question ("IRIX for dummies"...)

Unread postby The radar guy » Thu Apr 07, 2011 4:12 am

duck wrote:Interesting. I seem to recall something about selecting which mode the window manager runs in, but alas all I get are memory faults. :-)
In any case, to list the processes running use ps -u username where username is your user name of course.


But when the system starts I am not asked to login! So, what username should I use with "ps"?... :?:
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Re: Pretty Silly Question ("IRIX for dummies"...)

Unread postby duck » Thu Apr 07, 2011 4:19 am

heh, gosh. Try whoami.
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Re: Pretty Silly Question ("IRIX for dummies"...)

Unread postby The radar guy » Thu Apr 07, 2011 4:57 am

Hey folks, at last I could kill the clock from console (I spotted the PID and it worked!).
But something definitely odd appears... I CAN'T SEE THE "FRONT PANEL"! I am unable to bring it up. And if I can't see the Front Panel, I can't even launch the File Manager!!! SOB!!! :(
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Re: Pretty Silly Question ("IRIX for dummies"...)

Unread postby duck » Thu Apr 07, 2011 5:26 am

Well, I'm stumped. I have no idea what front panel you're talking about.
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Re: Pretty Silly Question ("IRIX for dummies"...)

Unread postby kramlq » Thu Apr 07, 2011 5:30 am

For future reference, the program 'xkill' gives you a 'killer cursor' that will close the next window you click on. Its easier than having to find out the pid and use the command line.

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Re: Pretty Silly Question ("IRIX for dummies"...)

Unread postby sgifanatic » Thu Apr 07, 2011 5:40 am

Also, a handy trick to find PIDs without browsing through the entire ps output is to use:

ps x | grep clock

where clock is the substring from the program name you wish to search for.

ps x |grep irefox

will find firefox and Firefox for example.

Then the old kill -9 PID will do the trick!
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Re: Pretty Silly Question ("IRIX for dummies"...)

Unread postby duck » Thu Apr 07, 2011 5:56 am

Anyone happen to remember what/where that setting I was half-remembering was? MWM emulation vs something else or something?
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Re: Pretty Silly Question ("IRIX for dummies"...)

Unread postby Pontus » Thu Apr 07, 2011 7:31 am

Sounds to me like the window manager has died?
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Re: Pretty Silly Question ("IRIX for dummies"...)

Unread postby josehill » Thu Apr 07, 2011 8:12 am

Any possibility that your mouse is misconfigured? See http://www.nekochan.net/wiki/ ... Under_IRIX


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