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Re: Things to buy....

Unread postby uunix » Sun Jan 28, 2018 2:14 pm

vishnu wrote:
uunix wrote:I think I'd like a sound mixer. Know nothing about them though.

Give this a try: https://www.amb.org/xmmix/
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Hey, looks rather cool Vishnu.
My discreet outputs adat/optical to another octane, so this could be a very good solution and will take up zero space. Just hope I can get it compiled without too much head ache.

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Vishnu, do you have this running on IRIX? Failing to compile, missing sys/soundcard.h, which I presume is coming from the drivers for open sound?
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Re: Things to buy....

Unread postby vishnu » Sun Jan 28, 2018 4:08 pm

Yeah, looks like the 1.2 version was ported to OSS, which I don't think anybody uses anymore, I think I have an earlier version IRIX binary stashed on my Sun at work (heresy, I know ;) ), I'll check when I drag myself in in the morning...
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Re: Things to buy....

Unread postby thunderbird32 » Mon Feb 12, 2018 11:28 am

I would still like to get any SGI. :lol:

Feels weird to be on here this long and not have one. I also still need to get a NeXT, and I wouldn't be opposed to getting a VAX and/or Itanium system as well. That way I'll have at least one machine from each of the major workstation manufacturers of the '90s. I'd like to think that would have me sorted for a while, but I know that's a lie. I'd probably start chasing increasingly obscure systems until I run of of physical space for them (not that I'm far from that as is).
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Re: Things to buy....

Unread postby uunix » Mon Feb 12, 2018 12:15 pm

60 posts and no SGI? WTF someone give this guy an INDY..
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Re: Things to buy....

Unread postby thunderbird32 » Mon Feb 12, 2018 12:18 pm

uunix wrote:60 posts and no SGI? WTF someone give this guy an INDY..


Wait, is that how it works? If I get to 5,000 posts do I get a free Crimson? :lol:
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Re: Things to buy....

Unread postby uunix » Mon Feb 12, 2018 1:55 pm

thunderbird32 wrote:
uunix wrote:60 posts and no SGI? WTF someone give this guy an INDY..


Wait, is that how it works? If I get to 5,000 posts do I get a free Crimson? :lol:

5,000 post you get writers cramp...
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Re: Things to buy....

Unread postby itsvince725 » Mon Feb 12, 2018 4:12 pm

uunix wrote:60 posts and no SGI? WTF someone give this guy an INDY..


How many posts do I need to get a Fuel?
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Re: Things to buy....

Unread postby Raion-Fox » Mon Feb 12, 2018 4:17 pm

A million for a Tezro. Fuck the Fuel.
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Re: Things to buy....

Unread postby josehill » Mon Feb 12, 2018 5:34 pm

uunix wrote:60 posts and no SGI? WTF someone give this guy an INDY..

This is my 3,362nd post. By uunix's formula, that works out to being just a little more than 56 INDYs!

I'd better make some room in my basement before the Nekofairy delivers all the INDYs that I'm owed! :lol:

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Re: Things to buy....

Unread postby uunix » Sat Feb 17, 2018 3:35 am

vishnu wrote:Yeah, looks like the 1.2 version was ported to OSS, which I don't think anybody uses anymore, I think I have an earlier version IRIX binary stashed on my Sun at work (heresy, I know ;) ), I'll check when I drag myself in in the morning...

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Re: Things to buy....

Unread postby 1byte » Sat Feb 17, 2018 6:04 am

Trippynet wrote:If space was no option, I'd probably buy an Amiga 1200, an Archimedes of some sort (used loads when I was at school), a BBC Model B, and a ZX80 (my dad nearly acquired one ages ago from work, but they got binned - a pity as they're worth a bit now).

Moving into fantasy land, I'd love to find a new laptop with a decent keyboard, decent trackpad and decent screen. But like I say, this is more fantasy than anything else as no company has made such a thing for quite a few years now unfortunately. I'd also love to find a 4k monitor with a 16:10 aspect ratio (3840x2400 resolution), but again nobody makes such a monitor at the moment.


Why 16:10? The professional film world all use 4k and better monitors, but they are all 1.78:1. Of course, the needs of the industry are met as they are working on the aspect ratio that will be displayed to the end user. The only thing 16:10 would get you is the ability to display older European films in their native aspect ratio of 1.66.

Now, I'm all for manufacturers making whatever hardware you want, I am just curious to your needs? Its an interesting topic.



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Re: Things to buy....

Unread postby Trippynet » Sat Feb 17, 2018 8:16 am

1byte wrote:Why 16:10? The professional film world all use 4k and better monitors, but they are all 1.78:1. Of course, the needs of the industry are met as they are working on the aspect ratio that will be displayed to the end user. The only thing 16:10 would get you is the ability to display older European films in their native aspect ratio of 1.66.

Now, I'm all for manufacturers making whatever hardware you want, I am just curious to your needs? Its an interesting topic.


Simple, because I use my PC for an awful lot more than watching films. In fact if I want to watch a film, I'd rather watch it on the big TV in the living room (I have a Raspberry PI set up for video streaming to the TV). And if I do watch any TV/film on my PC, a tiny black bar at the top and bottom is really not an issue. In fact if you're editing TV/films, 16:10 is useful as you can see the content and see the editing controls above/below at the same time.

As it is, on my PC I browse the web a lot (extra screen height is useful), work on documents/spreadsheets (extra screen height is useful), do programming (extra screen height is useful), etc.

My main beef with 16:9 is that it's generally a downgrade from 16:10 (monitors went from 1920x1200 to 1920x1080 for example, and you get less screen space compared to a 16:10 screen of the same diagonal size). It wasn't done because 16:9 is technically better in any way, it was done simply because it's the same aspect ratio as a TV and therefore the panels are cheaper to make - and I like a good monitor designed for working, not a cheap one designed for watching TV on.
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Re: Things to buy....

Unread postby Irinikus » Sat Feb 17, 2018 8:32 am

Trippynet wrote:Simple, because I use my PC for an awful lot more than watching films. In fact if I want to watch a film, I'd rather watch it on the big TV in the living room (I have a Raspberry PI set up for video streaming to the TV). And if I do watch any TV/film on my PC, a tiny black bar at the top and bottom is really not an issue. In fact if you're editing TV/films, 16:10 is useful as you can see the content and see the editing controls above/below at the same time.


Sadly to say, I think that gamers are also partially to blame for the 16:9 ratio, as a wider aspect ratio is beneficial when playing games. (As it best matches the average persons field if view, when sitting at the correct distance from the monitor.)

Manufacturers should offer screens with aspect ratios to suit all requirements, but sadly economics are the limiting factor here too.

If you get a 5K or an 8K monitor with a 16:9 aspect ratio, because the dot pitch is smaller, you will effectively be able to see more information within the vertical limits of the screen. (I know isn't what you're looking for, but it is a partial solution to the problem)
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Re: Things to buy....

Unread postby Trippynet » Sat Feb 17, 2018 12:42 pm

Irinikus wrote:Sadly to say, I think that gamers are also partially to blame for the 16:9 ratio, as a wider aspect ratio is beneficial when playing games. (As it best matches the average persons field if view, when sitting at the correct distance from the monitor.)


Well, games do work better on a widescreen monitor compared with a 4:3 monitor, I'll give you that. However from what I've played, I personally think games are even better on a 16:10 screen than a 16:9 one as more vertical space (yet still the same width) means the HUD interferes less with gameplay, plus 16:10 is closer to the golden ratio than 16:9. I'd still say it's monitor makers trying to pander to customers by offering increasingly cheap widescreen monitors that helped push 16:9, not that it's especially better for gaming than 16:10 (although I'll admit that it's a tougher one for gaming overall).

Ultimately though I do agree with your second point. Choice is fine and I don't have a problem with 16:9 existing for monitors and being the default for lower end. But I do get annoyed when even expensive/high end displays get bumped to 16:9 just so the manufacturer can save a few pounds. I've used both 16:9 and 16:10 screens and I simply do not like 16:9 screens. I find them too wide, too short and annoying to use.
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Re: Things to buy....

Unread postby guardian452 » Sat Feb 17, 2018 7:33 pm

I’m hoping they’ll bump up the DPI on the ultrawide curved 34” format soon.


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