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Re: What extremely rare (non-prototype) computers do you wish you could find?

Unread postby itsvince725 » Sun Mar 26, 2017 6:10 pm

ClassicHasClass wrote:Don't feel bad. I actually destroyed a WGS 9150 I got from a friend many years ago for parts. In my defense it wasn't working and this was when they weren't as rare as they are now.

As penance I will keep the one I do have running forthwith. :P


Oooh, do you have any pictures? What OS do you run on it?
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Unread postby Trippynet » Mon Mar 27, 2017 1:47 am

scottE wrote:If I had been consulted in that particular tossing, I'd have made it clear I wanted that, because those were always sort of rare.

Ah well. Easy come, easy go, unlike my N64.


To be fair, we are talking about at least 16-17 years ago here. I was in my teens at the time and didn't think as much. Within a couple of years I found the dead valve that I'd salvaged from it and started regretting chucking it.

On the plus side if you did want one, they're maybe not as rare as you think. I found several on eBay. Good ones seem to go for around £200.

At this stage, I'm wondering if the mods should split these last few posts off into a new "Stuff you've binned and regretted" thread :)
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Unread postby Dodoid » Mon Mar 27, 2017 5:24 am

SGI 750 seems quite rare as well. Would love to even see a decent quality picture of one of them. SGIStuff doesn't have a page about it, but according to techpubs and the SGI Press Release Archive on the Internet Archive it was their first Itanium system, predating both the Altix and Prism lines. Branded like their SGI 1000 family x86 servers even though it's more like a continuation of the Visual Workstation line. There was seemingly a cluster installation of them at one point, which was the first Itanium cluster. SGI seemingly also offered Itanium devkits based on them.

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Unread postby ClassicHasClass » Mon Mar 27, 2017 2:13 pm

itsvince725 wrote:
ClassicHasClass wrote:Don't feel bad. I actually destroyed a WGS 9150 I got from a friend many years ago for parts. In my defense it wasn't working and this was when they weren't as rare as they are now.

As penance I will keep the one I do have running forthwith. :P


Oooh, do you have any pictures? What OS do you run on it?


It runs Mac OS 7.6 and MkLinux.

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Re: What extremely rare (non-prototype) computers do you wish you could find?

Unread postby robespierre » Mon Mar 27, 2017 2:33 pm

Interesting writeup. Do you know of any sources of info on Aquarius? folklore.org turns up nothing.
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Unread postby josehill » Mon Mar 27, 2017 4:33 pm

Dodoid wrote:SGI 750 seems quite rare as well. Would love to even see a decent quality picture of one of them. SGIStuff doesn't have a page about it, but according to techpubs and the SGI Press Release Archive on the Internet Archive it was their first Itanium system, predating both the Altix and Prism lines. Branded like their SGI 1000 family x86 servers even though it's more like a continuation of the Visual Workstation line. There was seemingly a cluster installation of them at one point, which was the first Itanium cluster. SGI seemingly also offered Itanium devkits based on them.

Back when I worked for GlobalMegaPharmaCorp, SGI was keen to have my group test a prototype version of the 750 (plain, dark gray plastics, if you're curious). We gave it a try, but we found it to be pretty lackluster. SGI worked with us to optimize some of our scientific software for the machine, but it was obvious that we'd get a much better price/performance ratio from commodity x86 solutions. Although we later tested some Altix systems, too, the experience with the 750 was when even our strongest SGI advocates realized that the only SGI purchases in our future would be maintenance contracts for our existing IRIX servers and workstations.

By the way, SGI didn't actually manufacture the 750. The machine was designed by Intel and HP, and several companies (Intel, HP, IBM, Fujitsu-Siemens, even Dell!) sold versions of it. The HP-badged version was called the "HP Workstation i2000." There are a few Nekochan threads discussing the 750, so you might find some more pictures and references there.


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Re: What extremely rare (non-prototype) computers do you wish you could find?

Unread postby itsvince725 » Mon Mar 27, 2017 7:32 pm

ClassicHasClass wrote:
itsvince725 wrote:
ClassicHasClass wrote:Don't feel bad. I actually destroyed a WGS 9150 I got from a friend many years ago for parts. In my defense it wasn't working and this was when they weren't as rare as they are now.

As penance I will keep the one I do have running forthwith. :P


Oooh, do you have any pictures? What OS do you run on it?


It runs Mac OS 7.6 and MkLinux.

http://www.floodgap.com/retrobits/ans/9150/


So nice to see such good pictures of the inside and outside of a 9150! Thank you!
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Unread postby miod » Mon Mar 27, 2017 11:31 pm

uunix wrote:But, yes, I have dumped some really interesting things in the past, SUN VME systems, System/36, AS/400 plus many more.
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Unread postby ClassicHasClass » Tue Mar 28, 2017 8:36 am

robespierre wrote:Interesting writeup. Do you know of any sources of info on Aquarius? folklore.org turns up nothing.


You've just read the sum total of what I have. There are some apocryphal references out there on the Web, but they probably hail from one single source. No one I've read knows anything about the actual architecture that was envisioned, and it's pretty clear Sculley's concept was not much more than "go in that room and give me a chip."

At least one source, quoted in http://lowendmac.com/2006/growing-apple ... ley-years/ , says Gassee was the instigator and Sculley went along with it. This is certainly plausible. Someone should interview Al Alcorn about this since he inherited the project.

itsvince725 wrote:So nice to see such good pictures of the inside and outside of a 9150! Thank you!


Don't miss the pictures of the Apple Network Server, too, which is the real point of that section. That certainly qualifies for this thread. :)
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Unread postby itsvince725 » Wed Mar 29, 2017 9:19 am

Thanks to 68kMLA I am somewhat familiar with the ANS, though I had no idea they could run AIX in addition to A/UX.
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Unread postby Dodoid » Wed Mar 29, 2017 9:48 am

itsvince725 wrote:Thanks to 68kMLA I am somewhat familiar with the ANS, though I had no idea they could run AIX in addition to A/UX.


ANS is AIX only, A/UX is not PPC compatible. You may be confusing the Apple Network Server with the Apple Workgroup Server (AWS), not to be confused with Amazon Web Services (AWS) :D .
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Unread postby itsvince725 » Wed Mar 29, 2017 10:34 am

I probably am!

Honestly I don't know why Apple bothered with their own Unix...

And then you have the Workgroup Servers, which some of which were PPC and ran...I dunno what. Just Mac OS I guess?
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Unread postby ClassicHasClass » Wed Mar 29, 2017 5:47 pm

Not exactly. The 68K ones do run either A/UX or MacOS, but the PowerPC WGS systems ran strictly MacOS, though eventually they also had whatever MkLinux support Apple offered (which was bupkis). There was never a version of A/UX for the PowerPC, even though Apple wanted to (this was the mythical OSF/1 rewrite which never got a release).

And, of course, the ANS ran strictly its own peculiar flavour of AIX.

(This doesn't include third-party Linux or *BSD support, which of course doesn't count as they were never sold that way by Apple and happened after the fact.)
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Unread postby kokoboi » Thu Apr 13, 2017 3:10 pm

Wouldn't mind to have NEC EWS4800/130LT, DNARD or big toys like Siemens RM1000, Apollo DN10000
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