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Re: your latest purchase

Unread postby jpstewart » Sat Sep 10, 2016 8:01 am

vishnu wrote:I looked fairly closely but I don't see anything that looks like a date stamp.

Chalk that up to my poor photography skills!

In the first photo, just below the blue-on-white sticker with the Sun logo that says "Assembled in USA" is a smaller sticker that says 1294 which might be a date code. Whether that's month 12 or week 12 of 94, I don't know.

There's also what looks like a date code in the copper itself in the second photo. Between the tiny writing and the glare of the lights it is unreadable in the photo I posted. But in the top left, near the big black dot, there are some symbols in the copper alongside the numbers 05-94 (rotated 180 degrees).

It wouldn't surprise me if 05-94 is the date code for when the board was etched and 12-94 refers to final assembly. Of course, they may not be date codes at all! But 1994 certainly seems plausible.

Thanks guardian452 and robespierre for the insights on the squares of copper. I'd wondered about their purpose, too.
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Re: your latest purchase

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by ClassicHasClass » Fri Sep 02, 2016 7:38 pm

Well, getting back to small systems, I just landed a Motorola 8120 (25MHz 88100 -- yes, it's an 88K). It's in transit and will arrive with SysV and a blank root password. First order of business will be to convert it to a SCSI2SD ASAP.

It was you who outbid me on eBay!!! Man, I hate you :lol: - just kidding.


Let me know if you figure out how to get those running on it, since it would be nice as a fallback in case this goes toes up before the SCSI2SD arrives. I think they're a later version than this system has, too.

SysV88_R4.tap is R4V4.3, you will need to get ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de/pub/cm/utils/tap2file.c
this will convert the tap image to raw files which you can dd to a QIC tape, then just boot from the tape in the debugger.
If you are installing on unsupported disk follow this tutorial http://m88k.com/howto-001.html

I have Motorola SysVR3.2 tapes for m88k, version 3 and 3.1 - only supporting the 88100 designs, not the 88110 ones which were only supported by SVR4. I probably ought to archive them somewhere eventually...

I believe this particular M8120 has R3V3.2 installed. According to the listing image the kernel is built in 1993:
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R3V3.1 has been release around 1992... well unless the previous owner didn't recompile the kernel.
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Re: your latest purchase

Unread postby ClassicHasClass » Sun Sep 11, 2016 4:06 pm

Great tips. I replied to your PM before I saw this post. Yes, sorry to be the big spender, but now you know it has a good home. :)
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Re: your latest purchase

Unread postby ClassicHasClass » Sun Sep 11, 2016 4:24 pm

Btw, any restrictions on the QIC drive? I have an IBM QIC-1000 I was going to use (or an Amiga 3070).
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Re: your latest purchase

Unread postby surrealdeal » Sun Sep 11, 2016 9:44 pm

I got a handspring visor recently, for obvious reasons:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18183505

It has helped, but it isn't the silver-bullet I thought it would be.
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Re: your latest purchase

Unread postby commodorejohn » Sun Sep 11, 2016 10:18 pm

Nifty :) I picked one up at a thrift store a while back. Quite a nice little device.
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Re: your latest purchase

Unread postby uunix » Mon Sep 12, 2016 8:32 am

adx 171p

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Splits the audio from the SDI.

Hope this one works, last one didn't.
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Re: your latest purchase

Unread postby zuc » Mon Sep 12, 2016 1:25 pm

Nice! I have a similarly configured SS20 that I've been tinkering with recently. I'd love to find an audio board! Do you have trouble getting modern LCDs to sync properly with the SS20s output resolution? ... I have one monitor that works, but the Samsung Syncmasters that I usually use for Sparcstations shift everything over to the right.

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Re: your latest purchase

Unread postby zuc » Mon Sep 12, 2016 1:29 pm

By the way, just picked up this purple Indigo2 on eBay for a reasonable price (I think the seller has 2 more)... it's a 200MHZ R4600 with 256MB RAM and nearly intact skins, working door and all. I think it was part of a large SEM (scanning electron microscope) kit from Opal and it probably was in the dark for most of its life. It came with a working HD and software, plus a SCSI floptical (I think) and both caddies. I've pulled the HD and set it aside and am currently installing Irix 6.5.22 on a 143gb SCSI I had lying around. I rubbed it down with some olive oil after removing stickers and it looks beautiful!
:Indy: Indy - (indy) - R4600 - 133MHZ - 128MB RAM - 6.5.22
:Indy: Indy - (mimsy) - R4600 - 133MHZ - 160MB RAM - 6.5.22
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:Octane: Octane - (octane) - R12K - 2X300MHZ - 640MB RAM - EMXI+4TRAMs - 6.5.30
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Re: your latest purchase

Unread postby commodorejohn » Mon Sep 12, 2016 1:33 pm

zuc wrote:but the Samsung Syncmasters that I usually use for Sparcstations shift everything over to the right.

I've run into that with my O2s and my Syncmaster 173p, but I find that power-cycling the display after the computer has established a stable picture usually sets things aright.
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Re: your latest purchase

Unread postby Trippynet » Tue Sep 13, 2016 8:10 am

zuc wrote:By the way, just picked up this purple Indigo2 on eBay for a reasonable price (I think the seller has 2 more)... it's a 200MHZ R4600 with 256MB RAM


Are you quite sure of that? The R4600 only made one brief appearance in the Indigo2, and that was at 133MHz. It's likely you have an R4400.
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Re: your latest purchase

Unread postby zuc » Tue Sep 13, 2016 11:29 am

Trippynet wrote:
zuc wrote:By the way, just picked up this purple Indigo2 on eBay for a reasonable price (I think the seller has 2 more)... it's a 200MHZ R4600 with 256MB RAM


Are you quite sure of that? The R4600 only made one brief appearance in the Indigo2, and that was at 133MHz. It's likely you have an R4400.


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indigo2 1# hinv
CPU: MIPS R4400 Processor Chip Revision: 6.0
FPU: MIPS R4000 Floating Point Coprocessor Revision: 0.0
1 200 MHZ IP22 Processor
Main memory size: 128 Mbytes
Secondary unified instruction/data cache size: 2 Mbytes on Processor 0
Instruction cache size: 16 Kbytes
Data cache size: 16 Kbytes
Integral SCSI controller 0: Version WD33C93B, revision D
  Disk drive: unit 1 on SCSI controller 0
  Disk drive: unit 3 on SCSI controller 0
  Disk drive: unit 4 on SCSI controller 0
  Disk drive: unit 5 on SCSI controller 0
  Disk drive: unit 6 on SCSI controller 0
  Disk drive: unit 7 on SCSI controller 0
Integral SCSI controller 1: Version WD33C93B, revision D
On-board serial ports: 2
On-board bi-directional parallel port
Graphics board: XL
Integral Ethernet: ec0, version 1
Iris Audio Processor: version A2 revision 1.1.0
EISA bus: adapter 0
:Indy: Indy - (indy) - R4600 - 133MHZ - 128MB RAM - 6.5.22
:Indy: Indy - (mimsy) - R4600 - 133MHZ - 160MB RAM - 6.5.22
:Indy: Challenge S (WIP)
:Indigo2IMP: Indigo2 - (indigo2) - R4400 - 200MHZ - 128MB RAM - 6.5.22
:Octane: Octane - (octane) - R12K - 2X300MHZ - 640MB RAM - EMXI+4TRAMs - 6.5.30
:Octane: Octane - (petrol) - R12K - 1X300MHZ - 1.5GB RAM - 6.5.30
:O2: O2 - (manxome) - R12K - 270MHZ - 256MB RAM - 6.5.30
SPARCstation 4 - (sparcstep) - MicroSparc - 85MHZ - 32MB RAM - NeXTSTEP 3.3
SPARCstation 5 - (sparc5) - MicroSparc - 85MHZ - 128MB RAM - Solaris 8
SPARCstation 20 - (sparc20) - HyperSparc - 2X125MHZ+1X160MHZ - 512MB RAM - Solaris 9
Sun Ultra 5 - (ultrasol) - UltraSparc - 333MHZ - 128MB RAM - Solaris 8
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Re: your latest purchase

Unread postby jpstewart » Thu Sep 15, 2016 8:36 am

zuc wrote:Do you have trouble getting modern LCDs to sync properly with the SS20s output resolution?

I can't say I've ever tried an LCD on it. I've got two nice (but giant!) Sun CRT monitors that I use with my SS20. I paid $20 for one off Craigslist and the second was free. However, that setup requires a rather large and sturdy desk. :lol:
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Re: your latest purchase

Unread postby zuc » Thu Sep 15, 2016 8:41 am

Yeah, it's weird. The CG6 works fine with any LCD I connect, but the built-in video of the SS20 and the SS4 both shift either to the right or downward depending on which resolution setting I choose. They never sync up properly. Powering the monitor off and back on doesn't help. Pressing the "auto" button on the monitor doesn't help.

When I connect my Sun 17" CRT (15-pin, from the Ultra-5 era) it doesn't show any picture at all on the SS4 or SS20, but again it works fine with the CG6 in my other SS20 and my SS5.

Funny enough, the SS20 and SS4 built-in video work fine with this VIZIO 23" TV that happens to have a VGA input. So it's just something the Samsung Syncmaster doesn't support, evidently.
:Indy: Indy - (indy) - R4600 - 133MHZ - 128MB RAM - 6.5.22
:Indy: Indy - (mimsy) - R4600 - 133MHZ - 160MB RAM - 6.5.22
:Indy: Challenge S (WIP)
:Indigo2IMP: Indigo2 - (indigo2) - R4400 - 200MHZ - 128MB RAM - 6.5.22
:Octane: Octane - (octane) - R12K - 2X300MHZ - 640MB RAM - EMXI+4TRAMs - 6.5.30
:Octane: Octane - (petrol) - R12K - 1X300MHZ - 1.5GB RAM - 6.5.30
:O2: O2 - (manxome) - R12K - 270MHZ - 256MB RAM - 6.5.30
SPARCstation 4 - (sparcstep) - MicroSparc - 85MHZ - 32MB RAM - NeXTSTEP 3.3
SPARCstation 5 - (sparc5) - MicroSparc - 85MHZ - 128MB RAM - Solaris 8
SPARCstation 20 - (sparc20) - HyperSparc - 2X125MHZ+1X160MHZ - 512MB RAM - Solaris 9
Sun Ultra 5 - (ultrasol) - UltraSparc - 333MHZ - 128MB RAM - Solaris 8
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Re: your latest purchase

Unread postby zuc » Thu Sep 15, 2016 1:13 pm

I've got it bad... just got another Indy...

24-bit graphics option and 160MB RAM. Will post more when it arrives!
:Indy: Indy - (indy) - R4600 - 133MHZ - 128MB RAM - 6.5.22
:Indy: Indy - (mimsy) - R4600 - 133MHZ - 160MB RAM - 6.5.22
:Indy: Challenge S (WIP)
:Indigo2IMP: Indigo2 - (indigo2) - R4400 - 200MHZ - 128MB RAM - 6.5.22
:Octane: Octane - (octane) - R12K - 2X300MHZ - 640MB RAM - EMXI+4TRAMs - 6.5.30
:Octane: Octane - (petrol) - R12K - 1X300MHZ - 1.5GB RAM - 6.5.30
:O2: O2 - (manxome) - R12K - 270MHZ - 256MB RAM - 6.5.30
SPARCstation 4 - (sparcstep) - MicroSparc - 85MHZ - 32MB RAM - NeXTSTEP 3.3
SPARCstation 5 - (sparc5) - MicroSparc - 85MHZ - 128MB RAM - Solaris 8
SPARCstation 20 - (sparc20) - HyperSparc - 2X125MHZ+1X160MHZ - 512MB RAM - Solaris 9
Sun Ultra 5 - (ultrasol) - UltraSparc - 333MHZ - 128MB RAM - Solaris 8
NeXTStation Turbo Color - (blackhole) - m68040 - 33MHZ - 80MB RAM - NEXTSTEP 3.3


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