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Re: your latest purchase

Unread postby Dodoid » Mon Sep 25, 2017 11:11 am

commodorejohn wrote:Because I can't crash on the couch or lie in bed on a lazy morning with a desktop PC.


My bedside O2 and I beg to differ! :D
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Re: your latest purchase

Unread postby commodorejohn » Mon Sep 25, 2017 11:16 am

I knew something like that was coming as soon as I posted that :lol:
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Re: your latest purchase

Unread postby Irinikus » Mon Sep 25, 2017 11:21 am

Good one! :D
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Re: your latest purchase

Unread postby Dodoid » Mon Sep 25, 2017 11:27 am

SGI did a desktop O2, and a deskside Onyx. They also did that one-off O2 laptop. Where's my Onyx lapside?
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Re: your latest purchase

Unread postby Raion-Fox » Mon Sep 25, 2017 5:26 pm

So on the whole subject of laptops let me throw my .02 in.

Lenovo's spyware never bothered me because I always did a clean install on any machine I brought home, so what goes on the system is exactly what I trust. I like Lenovo for it's quality/price ratio, and the fact that unlike Apple I'm given extreme levels of expandability. Now, keep in mind it has been 3 years since I laid my hands on an Apple (I had an early rMBP 2012 which required three SSD replacements, no. thank. you.)

I have since owned an x60t, t410p, x230 and W530 in that order. The x60t was my downgrade I made from Apple, and it didn't bother me overly.

My w530 has 32GB of DDR3 RAM, a 3940XM with 8MB of L3, two 520GB SSDs and a custom copy of Windows 8.1 Embedded Pro on it. Go figure. The W530, most of the time, spends its life in the docking station hooked up to a single 29.5 Asus monitor and a Razer Chroma Ornata. Never had a problem running pretty much anything I play including Overwatch. Again, though, I'm not expecting top-tier performance out of this setup.

The chiclet keyboard of the W530 doesn't bother me and I don't see the complaints about it. Then again, I'm not a touch typing fanatic and don't really care too much about a keyboard as long as it is relatively responsive and tactile - and the W530 fits the bill fine, it's not a Model M by any stretch but it's a good keyboard considering I never use a num pad and I don't care but so much about the fact there's spaces between my keys! Any other issues are relatively minor - after I upgraded the CPU sometimes the system would crash. I fixed it by replacing the fan module (failing fan motor) and upgrading to better thermal compound, my temperatures are pretty regular now. Granted, I'm done with using a *NIX as my daily. Nothing against it, but I just can't take the politics in the BSD and Linux communities right now and the fact that there's always something broken. I'd consider the rdesktop+USB stick mini pc solution if it weren't for the fact I have a need to play my anime in 10-bit glory and unfortunately SGI can't handle that.

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Anyways, I bought a Trinitron 25 inch big old bubble CRT today for $30 from the Salvation Army, and made my rounds to the local game shops for a Super GameBoy 2, some Wii U titles and Ico for PS2.
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Re: your latest purchase

Unread postby guardian452 » Mon Sep 25, 2017 6:53 pm

Similar machine to the ‘20 series. The last of the real thinkpads, before they fucked up the hinge, the trackpad/trackpoint, the clamshell design, the modularity, everything. You can argue they started cheaping out here or there before this generation but the ‘40s are... ugh.

Thinkpads were supposedly never affected by their software shenaigans anyways. But that doesn’t mean you shouldn’t consider the old “once bit, twice shy” adage.

Unfortunately the limitations are too much to overcome with the w520, no amount of upgrading can fix. The ssd slot is msata limited to 300mb speed, there is no thunderbolt expansion of any kind, it weighs way too much, the battery barely lasts an hour going downhill with a strong tailwind and a new one from lenovo costs more than the machine is probably worth.

That said, I love it, it feels great to use. One of these days I’m going to pull it to pieces and clean it out really good (not that dirty but I think the fan/radiator needs new grease) and shove in the best cpu that it will take.

The x220 I would have a hard time getting rid of, too. I started with a slightly-used x30 circa 2006 or so, and it was all downhill after that. This one I might go back to actually using at some point, it would just need a ips and ssd and battery and it would be quite livable.

The x-series I owned were always the best laptops IMO (skipping the x300/x1).

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Re: your latest purchase

Unread postby Raion-Fox » Mon Sep 25, 2017 8:02 pm

guardian452 wrote:Unfortunately the limitations are too much to overcome with the w520, no amount of upgrading can fix. The ssd slot is msata limited to 300mb speed, there is no thunderbolt expansion of any kind, it weighs way too much, the battery barely lasts an hour going downhill with a strong tailwind and a new one from lenovo costs more than the machine is probably worth.


I don't even have an OEM battery and my battery lasts a good 3 hours under 1080p 10-bit anime, around 2 if I'm playing something demanding like Black Mesa or Overwatch.

The msata slot I haven't even touched, tbh. I got rid of the DVD drive, I have a server with a DVD drive i access over nfs if I need it. I use an SSD adapter in the DVD bay.

Thunderbolt doesn't bother me. TB1/2 are proprietary garbage and since downgrading from my Nexus 5x to a Huawei Honor 5x, I have no USB C devices, so TB3 is useless. I use USB 3 and the FW port on mine for external drives. That said, my use case is different.

I have a generation newer MB, CPU, and graphics, so my machine is definitely faster. It does not, however, output on Intel over the docking station. , so I couldn't easily use Linux on it even if I wanted.

With a Sandy era CPU, you're stuck with much older CPUs, but that means upgrading shouldn't be too much. I paid a year ago $350 for a 3940xm.

I don't require the latest performance or gadgets, I don't partake in pcmasterrace circlejerks and I own enough CRTs and analog equipment than most people twice my age. I don't mind being behind the times, personally. I don't use facebook, barely use twitter, I do use gab, but mostly under a troll account. Most of the sites I access I could access on an old FF version if I needed to.
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Re: your latest purchase

Unread postby Krokodil » Wed Sep 27, 2017 12:58 pm

Raion-Fox wrote:I don't require the latest performance or gadgets, I don't partake in pcmasterrace circlejerks and I own enough CRTs and analog equipment than most people twice my age. I don't mind being behind the times, personally. I don't use facebook, barely use twitter, I do use gab, but mostly under a troll account. Most of the sites I access I could access on an old FF version if I needed to.


Me neither. Alot of my computers are ancient. Ranging from 10-25 years old. :D They work well enough. I stopped chasing the latest PC hardware a long time ago. Especially when I realized the games weren't what they used to be anymore. I'm still playing SWAT3 from 1999.

I only have one fake facebook for getting access into the network, communicating with a hold out and participating in one group that's on there. I have no use for social media otherwise.

Raion-Fox wrote: Granted, I'm done with using a *NIX as my daily. Nothing against it, but I just can't take the politics in the BSD and Linux communities right now and the fact that there's always something broken. I'd consider the rdesktop+USB stick mini pc solution if it weren't for the fact I have a need to play my anime in 10-bit glory and unfortunately SGI can't handle that.


I have also given consideration to the idea of abandoning NIX after 10 glorious years. I notice FreeBSD seems to get more and more tarted up, making it more complex than it needs to be. Seems like the people in those communities largely want to run the thing off a cliff in the name of "progress", so it's probably just a matter of time before I have to say goodbye myself. Stuff like Thunar being broken is extremely annoying. The same bug has been in the program for years now where you try to rename files and the thing crashes and I see no fix on the horizon for it. It's why I refuse to donate to those projects, because I know the money will only be used to further it's destruction.
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Re: your latest purchase

Unread postby commodorejohn » Wed Sep 27, 2017 3:15 pm

Only problem with abandoning *nix is that the alternatives have been getting worse and worse. Windows 8 was so awful that it finally drove me off my XP system simply by demonstrating that things would never, ever get better there; if I had to use Win10 as a daily driver I'd slit my wrists. And OSX is just a glorified iPad now.
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Re: your latest purchase

Unread postby Krokodil » Wed Sep 27, 2017 7:34 pm

commodorejohn wrote:Only problem with abandoning *nix is that the alternatives have been getting worse and worse. Windows 8 was so awful that it finally drove me off my XP system simply by demonstrating that things would never, ever get better there; if I had to use Win10 as a daily driver I'd slit my wrists. And OSX is just a glorified iPad now.


Yeah I was thinking that too. I really don't want to have to go back to Windows post 7 either and OSX is turning into a baby toy as well. I really don't want to move, but people have to stop cocking things up.

FoxBSD may be our only hope. Might be the only way to have the stick shift in the future, unfortunately.
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Re: your latest purchase

Unread postby Trippynet » Thu Sep 28, 2017 6:41 am

commodorejohn wrote:Only problem with abandoning *nix is that the alternatives have been getting worse and worse. Windows 8 was so awful that it finally drove me off my XP system simply by demonstrating that things would never, ever get better there; if I had to use Win10 as a daily driver I'd slit my wrists. And OSX is just a glorified iPad now.


Same here. It's why I'm still running Windows 7 on everything, god knows what I'm going to do in 2020 when Windows 7 support stops altogether. I do have a "test" Windows 10 laptop which I've customised the shit out of to block all telemetry, replace the start menu with Classic Shell, block updates completely so I can install them on my own terms etc, but it's still not a patch on my Windows 7 machine for simple usability.
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Re: your latest purchase

Unread postby HurricaneJames » Thu Sep 28, 2017 8:08 am

Funny, I find Windows 10 to be better than windows 7 at getting out of my way. However, I hate the forced updates which will reboot my computer in the middle of a working session without warning.
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Re: your latest purchase

Unread postby Trippynet » Fri Sep 29, 2017 12:47 pm

Well, my NUC arrived today, and contrary to what Intel/MS would have you believe, Windows 7 is up and running on it. Still need to do a big driver hunt as there's quite a few drivers missing right now (it's only just booted for the first time after installing), but I was able to find working USB3 and NVMe drivers to slipstream into the install media, so it's a good start!
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Re: your latest purchase

Unread postby ClassicHasClass » Sat Sep 30, 2017 8:56 pm

Purchased for "come'n'get it" but ended up with a crapload of RISC OS stuff (a possibly working Iyonix PC and a RISC PC that needs a bit of TLC but should be bootable, plus tons of software), a Yosemite G3 (400MHz), a ROM 01 IIgs and accessories, and a Digital Audio G4 (733MHz).
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Re: your latest purchase

Unread postby commodorejohn » Sat Sep 30, 2017 10:01 pm

Oh, nifty. Reminds me, I should really pull out my RPi and screw around with RISC OS some more.
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