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Re: your latest purchase

Unread postby johnnym » Mon May 22, 2017 9:52 am

Y888099 wrote:
johnnym wrote:HP 9000 Model 712/80


I owned a 712*100Mhz/192MB of ram, it was good as X11 terminal, but with gentoo it took 15 weeks (24h/24) just to compile a minimal stage4 :shock:

Sounds like a good burn-in test. If it doesn't went up in flames during 105 days of continuous operation, heat might not be a problem for the electronics of this machine (although the 712/100 has a different system board then my 712/80).

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johnnym wrote:A HP 9000 Model 712/80 (w/maxed out RAM and additional VRAM module installed) thanks to FlasBurn.

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Nice. I've got a 712/100 with 192Mb which is quite slow, but probably one of my favourite machines. They were never speed demons - even back in the days these were current, they were mainly used as glorified xterminals where I worked (i.e. an xterminal but with a floppy drive, which is why they were chosen over proper xterminals by the guys in testing).

Actually speed is not that an issue, as long as there are other options to compile or update software. And especially for Debian on HPPA it's easy to just use a later machine for this work (same for OpenBSD and NetBSD I guess). Nevertheless I was shocked how demanding apt is nowadays. Of course I made it extra hard by using a NFS root FS over a 10 Mbps NIC. :roll:

kramlq wrote:In terms of maxing it out, beyond RAM, its quite difficult out as the parts are rare. I've got probably the most useful GIO option: the 2nd VGA and Ethernet GIO Card with breakout cable, but you don't see them for sale much.

Is this a 100 Mbps NIC then?

kramlq wrote:The second (teleshare) slot is also impossible to find anything for, but pretty useless these days anyway. Even the floppy + matching bezel is very difficult to find outside of buying a complete system with one installed.

Fortunately for me FlasBurn had the original non-floppy bezel, which I like even more for a machine that should be used without disks.

kramlq wrote:There is also a nice matching external CDROM and HDD if you want to go for the full setup :D

Yeah, I've seen a few pictures of these external devices on the web. They look pretty cute. Sun had a similar idea for their lunchbox models. I got two SPARCclassics with matching CDROM and disk enclosures. Makes a nice tower. :D
sparcclassics-and-externals-enclosures.jpg

Two blazingly fast 50 MHz MicroSPARCs, a high-speed CDROM and SCSI disk, all in one tower! 8-)
With the words of IBM - although they meant another machine - "[...] this system is a supersonic race car on the IT highway. [...]" (taken from http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/power/hardware/775/). :lol:

I wonder why SGI never thought about external enclosures for single CDROM and disk drives that match the design of the base machine (i.e. CDROM for Octane, etc.).
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Re: your latest purchase

Unread postby robespierre » Mon May 22, 2017 10:20 am

johnnym wrote:I wonder why SGI never thought about external enclosures for single CDROM and disk drives that match the design of the base machine (i.e. CDROM for Octane, etc.).

They did: The Indy had the Challenge Vault S, the Indigo2 had the Challenge Vault M, and the O200 had the Origin Vault.
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Re: your latest purchase

Unread postby kramlq » Mon May 22, 2017 10:40 am

johnnym wrote:Is this a 100 Mbps NIC then?

No, it only creates a second port which I believe has the same hardware as the first, so 10Mbps only.

johnnym wrote:I wonder why SGI never thought about external enclosures for single CDROM and disk drives that match the design of the base machine (i.e. CDROM for Octane, etc.).

They do! They offered granite enclosures to match the granite keyboard and mouse of the Indy, Indigo2 etc. I've got the CDROM, Floppy and DDS3 drive versions, which stack nicely just like the Sun boxes. I posted a picture on here many years ago: viewtopic.php?f=5&t=17035&p=132888#p132888

For Octane, there is also an external DVD in dark grey, and presumably tape, floppy as well.

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Re: your latest purchase

Unread postby Y888099 » Mon May 22, 2017 12:35 pm

johnnym wrote:Sounds like a good burn-in test. If it doesn't went up in flames during 105 days of continuous operation, heat might not be a problem for the electronics of this machine


Yes, it was a burn-in test :D
I was curious, at the end I understood these 712 machines are slow, but affordable.
They can be used as server.

Before selling I had also bought a second NIC+Uart card, which uses a strange "Y" cable.
It was useful to control a logic analyzer made by HP.


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One of the problems I had recompiling stuff was the C++ compiler. If you want to recompile things like cmake, you have to deal with C++, which eats *a lot of ram*, and since the machine was limited to 192MB (180MB usable for the userspace), you have to use the swap. The problem was ... I allocated 2GB of swap on a slow hard drive. It was less than 10Mbyte/sec. It didn't help.
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Re: your latest purchase

Unread postby johnnym » Tue May 23, 2017 12:00 pm

robespierre wrote:
johnnym wrote:I wonder why SGI never thought about external enclosures for single CDROM and disk drives that match the design of the base machine (i.e. CDROM for Octane, etc.).

They did: The Indy had the Challenge Vault S, the Indigo2 had the Challenge Vault M, and the O200 had the Origin Vault.

I actually knew of these, but I thought more about external enclosures of smaller scale, for one single drive, like the ones for the 712 series pictured in the following images:

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kramlq wrote:
johnnym wrote:I wonder why SGI never thought about external enclosures for single CDROM and disk drives that match the design of the base machine (i.e. CDROM for Octane, etc.).

They do! They offered granite enclosures to match the granite keyboard and mouse of the Indy, Indigo2 etc. I've got the CDROM, Floppy and DDS3 drive versions, which stack nicely just like the Sun boxes. I posted a picture on here many years ago: viewtopic.php?f=5&t=17035&p=132888#p132888

For Octane, there is also an external DVD in dark grey, and presumably tape, floppy as well.

Ok, I didn't knew these external enclosures were sold by SGI. I've seen some of them on the web but thought they were of generic source, also because I didn't recognize that the ones in lighter grey/beige actually have a granite look.

But compared to the machines itself, the smaller external enclosures have a pretty generic look don't you think?

Maybe SGI's intention was to emphasize the design of their machines by surrounding it with generic looking peripherals (apart from the granite look).
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Re: your latest purchase

Unread postby commodorejohn » Tue May 23, 2017 10:26 pm

hofner.jpg

Newest member of the family: a Hofner violin bass. (Not sure exactly which model, but it's one of the fully hollow-body ones, not the one with a sustain block inside.) Picked it up because I've been wanting to try one and a guy on Craigslist was offering a good deal since he's in a Beatles cover band and already has two others. It's a bit scuffed up, but overall in good shape, and it sounds sweet as hell :D Pure bass on the lower strings with a nice woody pluck on the upper ones, plays beautifully, and sounds good even without an amp hooked up :)
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Re: your latest purchase

Unread postby SiliconClassics » Fri Jun 02, 2017 11:24 am

Just bought this boxed set of MicroStation 5 from eBay. I remember tinkering with it on a family friend's computer as a kid (he was an architect) and thinking the interface looked much cooler than AutoCAD. Also had a pretty nice renderer.

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Also that LaserJet 4 Plus in the background was a $5 thrift store purchase. Came with the JetDirect network card and a multipurpose paper tray. Needed a new drive gear assembly, $20 part on eBay and now it's good to go. It's at half a million pages and counting...
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Re: your latest purchase

Unread postby Trippynet » Sun Jun 04, 2017 9:41 am

commodorejohn wrote:1280x1024 is as high as anyone actually needs outside of medical imaging anyway.


I have to disagree. When I started at my current company, I had two 19" screens running at 1280x1024 and quickly stuffed a 24" 1920x1200 one in the middle. Over the next few months I found a couple of 20" 4:3 screens (1600x1200) and the difference it makes when you have spreadsheets open is very noticeable. I find 1280x1024 a bit too constricting for my work.
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Re: your latest purchase

Unread postby computron » Mon Jun 05, 2017 10:14 am

commodorejohn wrote:hofner.jpg
Newest member of the family: a Hofner violin bass. (Not sure exactly which model, but it's one of the fully hollow-body ones, not the one with a sustain block inside.) Picked it up because I've been wanting to try one and a guy on Craigslist was offering a good deal since he's in a Beatles cover band and already has two others. It's a bit scuffed up, but overall in good shape, and it sounds sweet as hell :D Pure bass on the lower strings with a nice woody pluck on the upper ones, plays beautifully, and sounds good even without an amp hooked up :)


Nice one !!!!

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Re: your latest purchase

Unread postby commodorejohn » Mon Jun 05, 2017 10:38 am

Thanks :D It's been all kinds of fun so far.
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Re: your latest purchase

Unread postby Raion-Fox » Mon Jun 05, 2017 6:21 pm

A used 2001 Miata front bumper, two 2001 Miata door cards and a 3 spoke Nardi wheel and airbag for a Miata.
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Re: your latest purchase

Unread postby ClassicHasClass » Mon Jun 05, 2017 11:24 pm

Crapload of Apple Developer CDs, up to even 2005.
smit happens.

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Re: your latest purchase

Unread postby SiliconClassics » Tue Jun 06, 2017 9:07 am

Picked up this lot of 1990s Softimage demo reels from an eBay seller in Quebec. Now I need to get a good VCR so I can digitize them.

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Re: your latest purchase

Unread postby commodorejohn » Tue Jun 06, 2017 9:27 am

Oh, do share when you've got them recorded :D
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Re: your latest purchase

Unread postby SiliconClassics » Tue Jun 06, 2017 10:59 am

Yep, these will go straight to YouTube :)
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