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Re: your latest purchase

Unread postby japes » Wed Feb 08, 2017 1:27 am

cb88 wrote:Also to stay on topic... most recent acquisition is an Ultra 45 + extra cpu since it only had one, 16Gb ram and a 2Tb SAS drive. It's a shame non of the Linux distros work with the XVR-100 by default on Sparc.. just a black screen quite annoying actually.


Oh, I was looking at a couple Ultra 45s. Have you had a chance to use it much? I was thinking of getting one in the next year maybe; to run Solaris though, not Linux. Probably try and dump my Blade 1000 to make room for it.

Speaking of latest purchase - though I got it for free and haven't had a chance to do anything with it, but a HP 9000/425 followed me home.
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Re: your latest purchase

Unread postby johnnym » Wed Feb 08, 2017 3:26 am

With great luck I was finally able to acquire my first multi-processor Alpha system, an AlphaServer DS20E. Even better, it worked on first try (after an endless 40 seconds between power-up and when the diagnostic LEDs finally lighted up and the glass console showed some output). It has two EV67 CPUs running at 666 MHz and the full 4 GiB of memory.

I believe it's a rack version, but I don't know for sure, because it also has a graphics card installed. It's missing at least the front panel and the control panel (and - if it was a floor-stand version - also the bottom and side covers) though the buttons and LEDs that make up the control panel are mostly intact. I will try Debian and OpenBSD on it and maybe add some additional info to this post later.

EDIT:
OpenBSD (6.0-current-1484468905) works diskless so far:

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# uname -a
OpenBSD ds20e.domain.tld 6.0 GENERIC.MP#28 alpha
# sysctl hw
hw.machine=alpha
hw.model=COMPAQ AlphaServer DS20E 666 MHz
hw.ncpu=2
hw.byteorder=1234
hw.pagesize=8192
hw.disknames=cd0:,fd0:
hw.diskcount=2
hw.serialno=AB12345678
hw.physmem=4292034560
hw.usermem=4292018176
hw.ncpufound=2
hw.allowpowerdown=1


Debian GNU/Linux (9 - unstable) works when installed on disk and also diskless with both the older kernel (v3.16.x) and the SMP Linux kernel used in Debian unstable currently (v4.8.x). The "generic" v4.8.x one doesn't work though:

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root@ds20e:~# cat /etc/*release
PRETTY_NAME="Debian GNU/Linux 9 (stretch)"
NAME="Debian GNU/Linux"
VERSION_ID="9"
VERSION="9 (stretch)"
ID=debian[...]
root@ds20e:~# uname -a
Linux ds20e 4.8.0-2-alpha-smp #1 SMP Debian 4.8.11-1 (2016-12-02) alpha GNU/Linux
root@ds20e:~# cat /proc/cpuinfo
cpu                     : Alpha
cpu model               : EV67
cpu variation           : 7
cpu revision            : 0
cpu serial number       :
system type             : Tsunami
system variation        : Catamaran
system revision         : 0
system serial number    : AB12345678
cycle frequency [Hz]    : 666666666
timer frequency [Hz]    : 1024.00
page size [bytes]       : 8192
phys. address bits      : 44
max. addr. space #      : 255
BogoMIPS                : 1315.12
kernel unaligned acc    : 0 (pc=0,va=0)
user unaligned acc      : 1665 (pc=2000007c240,va=11f8cb1aa)
platform string         : COMPAQ AlphaServer DS20E 666 MHz
cpus detected           : 2
cpus active             : 2
cpu active mask         : 0000000000000003
L1 Icache               : 64K, 2-way, 64b line
L1 Dcache               : 64K, 2-way, 64b line
L2 cache                : 8192K, 1-way, 64b line
L3 cache                : n/a
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Re: your latest purchase

Unread postby Krokodil » Wed Feb 08, 2017 10:26 am

An Indigo2 IMPACT with specs I don't yet know.

Ya, know for the bathrooom? :)
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Re: your latest purchase

Unread postby cb88 » Wed Feb 08, 2017 6:04 pm

japes wrote:
cb88 wrote:Also to stay on topic... most recent acquisition is an Ultra 45 + extra cpu since it only had one, 16Gb ram and a 2Tb SAS drive. It's a shame non of the Linux distros work with the XVR-100 by default on Sparc.. just a black screen quite annoying actually.


Oh, I was looking at a couple Ultra 45s. Have you had a chance to use it much? I was thinking of getting one in the next year maybe; to run Solaris though, not Linux. Probably try and dump my Blade 1000 to make room for it.

Speaking of latest purchase - though I got it for free and haven't had a chance to do anything with it, but a HP 9000/425 followed me home.


No I literally just got it yesterday.

I had enough time to get as far as a linux livecd booting up until finishing loading most of the drivers... but it seems all of these default to the console on serial and don't even try enabling the XVR-100 correctly... which is really strange since it's just a radeon 7000 it should work out of the box. I did figure out nearly this same issue on my Blade 150... so I'm sure it can be done I probably will just have to build my own kernel (annoyingly my usb serial adapter and the serial ports on the U45 are the same gender)...

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Re: your latest purchase

Unread postby robespierre » Wed Feb 08, 2017 7:31 pm

cb88 wrote:(annoyingly my usb serial adapter and the serial ports on the U45 are the same gender)...

Well, what did you expect? Serial adapters are DTE and so is a computer.
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Re: your latest purchase

Unread postby cb88 » Wed Feb 08, 2017 10:28 pm

I didn't "expect" anything... but it would have been nice if I hadn't needed a gender changer on hand which I don't have.

Also for what it is worth... female vs male connectors is neither hear nor there... an SS20 for instance has female connectors as do many "DTE"s.

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Re: your latest purchase

Unread postby josehill » Thu Feb 09, 2017 7:41 am

japes wrote:Huh, I had a 12" G4 1.33 and my wife had the previous one (1.25?). I don't remember the fan being that loud - certainly not much worse than her 11" MBA that is screaming right now from across the office. Both of ours seemed fine until later OS or later in life. Then they'd wake up and exhaust the battery when you traveled and just ran slow.


The fan on my 1.5 GHz model was fine under Panther and Tiger, but it became much more of an issue under Leopard or when I had a ton of tabs open in Safari or Firefox.

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Re: your latest purchase

Unread postby Shiunbird » Thu Feb 09, 2017 9:55 am

johnnym wrote:(after an endless 40 seconds between power-up and when the diagnostic LEDs finally lighted up and the glass console showed some output)


Cute. =))))))
My IntelliStation 285 takes 40 seconds probably to start the fans after power-up.

josehill wrote:The fan on my 1.5 GHz model was fine under Panther and Tiger, but it became much more of an issue under Leopard or when I had a ton of tabs open in Safari or Firefox.


This machine won't see much of the web, thankfully.
It's going to be a single purpose unit. =)
I'm aware how processor-intensive and x86-centric (or ARM) the web is nowadays. =(

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Re: your latest purchase

Unread postby ClassicHasClass » Thu Feb 09, 2017 5:41 pm

I'm aware how processor-intensive and x86-centric (or ARM) the web is nowadays. =(


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Re: your latest purchase

Unread postby Raion-Fox » Thu Feb 09, 2017 8:36 pm

ClassicHasClass wrote:
I'm aware how processor-intensive and x86-centric (or ARM) the web is nowadays. =(


TenFourFox is still here for you. :)



For how long do you plan on that? The JIT for JS on that, have you been backporting the changes from the newer releases? I tried Firefox on PPC and SPARC Linux recently and it was sloow when it came to parsing JS.
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Re: your latest purchase

Unread postby Shiunbird » Fri Feb 10, 2017 12:04 am

ClassicHasClass wrote:TenFourFox is still here for you. :)


I do use and love you browser =)
But the computer is not very useful if web browsing is taking 100% of the cycles. =))))
Some pages are just sad, specially pages from my home country that are 75% ads and 25% content.

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Re: your latest purchase

Unread postby ClassicHasClass » Fri Feb 10, 2017 4:02 pm

Hopefully Operation Short Change will improve the situation on those G4 systems with smaller caches. The numbers look promising on the Quad and the Quad has much bigger caches, so it should benefit the midrange G4 systems even more. And there will be built-in user agent spoof support in 45.8 too.

To be back on topic, I got a cooler for my SPARC Ultra-3 crotch burner, um, laptop. Not only was it verging on a fire hazard when running flat out, but it would have random overtemp crashes while building stuff which would inevitably take a crap on the filesystem. But so far so good:

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After this picture was taken I increased the view to 960x720 in software Quake and unthrottled the CPU in the PowerTool (it was throttled to 0.5x before), and while it's definitely heating up, it has been blowing up minions of the underworld with full frame rate and no glitches for almost twenty minutes. Not bad for a junky Chinese import laptop USB cooler. (Tip: use the USB port in the middle, the rear one doesn't seem to power up right.)
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Re: your latest purchase

Unread postby Raion-Fox » Fri Feb 10, 2017 7:21 pm

Impressive, those do only have 2D graphics.

Glad to hear you're making steady improvements.

On topic I was given a janky old aircooled G5. It works, but it has a pretty scraped up case. Wondering if I should sell the logic board/CPUs for parts or what.
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Re: your latest purchase

Unread postby Shiunbird » Sat Feb 11, 2017 5:44 am

Raion-Fox wrote:On topic I was given a janky old aircooled G5. It works, but it has a pretty scraped up case. Wondering if I should sell the logic board/CPUs for parts or what.


If you have use for it, why don't you get a case?
Or there is a gentleman who posted to youtube a video of him polishing his case to be reflexive. It looks like a mirror!

And, to stay on topic:
I've been looking for one of these for ages, so here is my Voyager:
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I've been wanting one of these for ages. I had a very crappy USB2 to PATA-SATA converter thing that was getting on my nerves. Now life is sweeter.

The version I got has FireWire 400/800, eSATA and USB 3. There's a cheaper version without FireWire.

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Re: your latest purchase

Unread postby Raion-Fox » Sat Feb 11, 2017 10:58 am

I don't want to run OS X and it's almost useless for BSD as it consumes too much power for too little output. Probably gonna sell it soon
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