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Re: Fear of Artificial Intelligence

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Re: Fear of Artificial Intelligence

Unread postby vishnu » Thu Mar 24, 2016 9:13 am

AI; after 50 years of research and "just around the corner" promises all they've been able to produce are unbeatable board game players and artificial stupidity bots... :lol:
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Re: Fear of Artificial Intelligence

Unread postby commodorejohn » Thu Mar 24, 2016 9:23 am

jan-jaap wrote:Looks like Microsoft hasn't nailed AI quite yet. :lol: :lol: :lol:

I'm sure this comes as a terrible shock to anyone who's never been on the Internet, ever.
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Re: Fear of Artificial Intelligence

Unread postby vishnu » Thu Mar 24, 2016 10:11 pm

commodorejohn wrote:
jan-jaap wrote:Looks like Microsoft hasn't nailed AI quite yet. :lol: :lol: :lol:

I'm sure this comes as a terrible shock to anyone who's never been on the Internet, ever.

Ha ha yeah, what's the phrase they use on Slashdot; "You must be new here...?"
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Re: Fear of Artificial Intelligence

Unread postby Devil Master » Fri Mar 25, 2016 9:15 am

I LOL at those who fear artificial intelligence. Has anyone here LOL'd at that load of baloney known as Roko's Basilisk?

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Re: Fear of Artificial Intelligence

Unread postby fu » Fri Mar 25, 2016 10:22 am

oh! it’s been sometime since we’ve had an existential thread here :)

so yes, say that we (humans) manage to put all those cables/boards/buttons/software together, all nice and tidy without breaking anything. then we can have the bots do the hard, silly work (die romantische plan).

what would you do (with all this freedom)?

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Re: Fear of Artificial Intelligence

Unread postby R-ten-K » Fri Mar 25, 2016 4:08 pm

fu wrote:what would you do (with all this freedom)?


Read old 60s and 70s articles that professed how people would only have to work less than 10 hours a week by 2000?
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Re: Fear of Artificial Intelligence

Unread postby fu » Sat Mar 26, 2016 3:48 am

if we could stay cool, it’d really nice r-ten. chances are slim though..

cool afrodelic avatar, kinda tricked me while associating the username as i was expecting the pixar lamp

was it you or sky (or both) that promised to fix the transporter? we’ve got a fresh kid on board willing to help you :)

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Re: Fear of Artificial Intelligence

Unread postby fu » Sat Mar 26, 2016 6:11 am

pepsichologist :lol:

ivelegacy wrote:a leading engineering company designing, in Cheltenham UK
gets no less than 40000 - 60000 UKP annum :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:

don’t let the numbers fool you, living cost in different cities ain’t a 1:1 relationship
spend some time in london/uk and you’ll hear everyone bitching about how expensive everything is
apropos, since you're coming from mediterranean blue, you won't like grey skies and being pissed with showers every freakin day

ivelegacy wrote:what the robot Hell ? more money, more hardware, that's a strategy...

that “more more” syndrome is what burns us every time, we’re the most self-destructive species known today.
that in-a-void is always there, you either make friends with it or become just another neurotic masturbating to “progress”

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Re: Fear of Artificial Intelligence

Unread postby skywriter » Wed Mar 30, 2016 10:08 am

The only thing I find scary about AI, is that given the opportunity to re-write itself we would actually finally see how programming should be done.

Which raises the question: can you even have 'real' AI without the ability to self-modify it's own code? If so, our protection architectures are severely broken platforms to develop AI upon. We need something as broken and half-assed as our own childhood to make it all work :-)
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Re: Fear of Artificial Intelligence

Unread postby fu » Wed Mar 30, 2016 4:52 pm

ivelegacy wrote:- I'm only happy when it rains
I'm only happy when it's complicated

good, here’s to youth and determination!
of course weather shouldn’t stop you from travelling

skywriter wrote:We need something as broken and half-assed as our own childhood to make it all work :-)

absolutely
they’re called archetypes for a good reason :)

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Re: Fear of Artificial Intelligence

Unread postby guardian452 » Wed Mar 30, 2016 6:43 pm

Less is more, more is more, more is less, and less is less. It's all a perspective thing. I don't chase salaries. I chase dreams :twisted: After living in 'the city' a few times, I couldn't afford it even with all the money in the world. Too much stress, too much drama. Fresh air is better, more sky is better.

I put my lumia and iphone in a drawer together and made Cortana and Siri fight it out. Turns out they go way back and are good friends. :/

skywriter wrote:The only thing I find scary about AI, is that given the opportunity to re-write itself we would actually finally see how programming should be done.

Which raises the question: can you even have 'real' AI without the ability to self-modify it's own code? If so, our protection architectures are severely broken platforms to develop AI upon. We need something as broken and half-assed as our own childhood to make it all work :-)

I wonder why this conversation isn't more popular. I saw a TV show, this was way back, perhaps almost 20 years ago, but they were working on it, I think a student group at maybe Stanford or MIT? The code would iterate once or twice and then crash. They made it seem like "real" AI was really just around the corner, for once.

The people don't want AI, they want the illusion of AI. A search engine with a voice interface. Maybe if we iterate in reverse, we'll reach the same goal. Rather than trying to stuff an encyclopedia into an infant's mind, we teach the encyclopedia to walk and talk like a human. Which is probably the way to go, it's certainly the path of least resistance and seems to be the most popular. It would be neat if thankless work if somebody approached the issue from the opposite end like we were doing up through the 90s, again.


We'll know we are in the future when our neural implants start developing rampancy... I feel like I've been living in the future since I was old enough to think about it. I can see things for what they are, but I try hard to not be jaded by anything. Because then you will have no fun at all.

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Re: Fear of Artificial Intelligence

Unread postby skywriter » Sat Apr 02, 2016 9:25 am

Hey '452, why did you quote me? The only thing I see connecting my content with your content is we both I ironically quoted the word 'real'.
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Re: Fear of Artificial Intelligence

Unread postby guardian452 » Sat Apr 02, 2016 10:25 am

I don't even know what I was talking about. I was tired, worse than being drunk :lol:

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Re: Fear of Artificial Intelligence

Unread postby skywriter » Sat Apr 02, 2016 4:36 pm

yeah, I figured something was disconnected.
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