duck wrote: ... it wasn't possible to use a debit card online ...
As mentioned above, I pay nothing for my credit, it all goes from the bank stock dividend. Presumably I would have earned more from this by not using a credit card, but it's not like they charge a lot...
I know nothing about Finland so I'll shut up about your situation. But the goal, of course, is to create a society where you can't even take a shit without a credit card.
guardian452 wrote:Ditto... I don't pay any bank fees, have no debt or credit lines.
This is a basic error in thinking. Because of credit cards you pay at least
2% extra for everything you buy, touch, hold, look at, dream about, sneer at, or fondle. And this is the very least of it. The rest of the economy is strangled by finance : health care, housing, auto insurance, manufacturing, services, retail, you name it. If finance is involved, you are being raped.
Qualifier : we are speaking of the US. I do not know anything about Yurop. China is different.
The banksters own
Mix together, shaken not stirred, replace the evil gubmint with aristocrats, plutocrats, kleptocrats, dried-up old stick reactionaries, succulent visionary futurists, whatever you like. Pour over cracked white shoes and advertising revenues ... banksters. They've got you by the balls and your hearts and minds have followed. Add a 2% tax to everything you do to pay off the stewpid fricking invasion of Iraq and you'd all scream like kindergarteners deprived of their cookies. But when the banks do it, oh well, it's only a little bit.
And that's the least of it, the very very tip of the iceberg.
They rent you that black rectangular telescreen with rounded corners. You get to pay for it and you even applaud your hipness in doing so. Wanna see mah chains ? they're so cool !
What you look at, they know. Where you go, they know. What you think, HUAC knows. What they don't want you to read, disappears. Given a little time the biggest lies of the century are first glossed over, then suppressed from the group memory, then remade into tales of heroic bravery. How is this done ?
That little piece of plastic. Yes, it doesn't cost you much ; just your soul.
Not using a credit card (especially for bigger purchases) is pretty stupid nowadays IMO. Most CCs will go to bat for you to the point of swallowing the entire purchase if there is a problem.
Heaven forbid you'd have to use your brain and not make stupid purchases. And of course the banksters just take those losses and don't add to the costs which you
pay. They are true altruists, always willing to take a hit for the common man. It's a great deal ! They pretend to save you money, then ram the big ten inch up your ass every time you sleep. More ! More ! It hurts so good !
So while banks are blood-sucking leeches... but not the little buildings with the drive-up ATM that we think of as banks, but the big wall street skyscrapers with more money than god to play with?
When you play in the toilet, you get shit on your hands. If it's a little toilet, then you get little turds. But they are all connected to that big ol' sewer pipe leading to Rome.
We could go into this for forty or fifty pages (I'll refrain) but money truly is the root of all evil. It has entirely taken over the United States. Brethren, let us chant together : U S A ! U S A ! U S A !
just like old times, happy slaves singin' in the fields .... That credit card don't cost nothin, nope.