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Unread postPosted: Thu May 06, 2010 9:39 am 
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VenomousPinecone wrote:
I don't share your pessimism.

Move to China :)

The US is kind of scary, too. It's been thirty years, guys. You've been bled dry for three decades. Figure out who the enemy is. Hint : has three letters and it's not the Communists hiding under your beds.

I'm sorry but people do not seem very smart. Even worse, they don't seem to learn. But they can sure wreck stuff (e.g., Gulf of Mexico.)


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Unread postPosted: Thu May 06, 2010 12:33 pm 
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Oh it is sketchy here in the states. The Dow suffered its greatest one day loss today, in the span of an hour.

I am not afraid because I trust the sun will rise tomorrow. As long as the sun shines, I can figure out how to thrive.


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Unread postPosted: Thu May 06, 2010 12:36 pm 
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Oh it is sketchy here in the states. The Dow suffered its greatest one day loss today, in the span of an hour.

I am not afraid because I trust the sun will rise tomorrow. As long as the sun shines, I can figure out how to thrive.


This. In my few years around I've done just fine for myself regardless of the idiocy of the world at large, and I've surrounded myself with good friends who are doing just fine too. I trust that my future family and children will have what it takes to keep themselves happy too, regardless of the idiocy in the world around us.

Global threats like global warming always hang over us, but if there's anything history has shown us it's that the Earth itself is almost as resilient and adaptable as the humans and animals on it.

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Oh it is sketchy here in the states. The Dow suffered its greatest one day loss today, in the span of an hour.

I am not afraid because I trust the sun will rise tomorrow. As long as the sun shines, I can figure out how to thrive.


At least you don't have an earwax eating communist nationalizing 60% of the only functional industry because "ïts not fair that companies are making profits". One statement from our national disgrace and 8 billion wiped off the share market, just like that.

Oh and here lately, the latest male fashion is to wear burqas when doing armed robberies. Extra stylish.

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Unread postPosted: Thu May 06, 2010 4:21 pm 
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Hey there, guys!
...too many posts to comment on each of them, despite the fact that I don't think my comments would be of any special importance, given the fact that this thread is geeting more interesting everyday, and I'm also more interested for read than write.

But the thing I would like to mention is: many years ago I had a nice book that commented about what the author considered to be a single and unavoidable fact. And these fact was: if the human kind wants to make it to the next evolutive level, it has to develop what he called "Consciousness Of Beehive" ...not in the figurative sense that the people commonly uses to refer to some kind of societies where a community is layouted similarly to a community of ants or bees, but more in a concrete and real sense of beehive. He stated that if we can't reach such thing, we'll not make it up to the next level.

I can't remember the name of the book or the author. I had these wild period where a couple different books crossed my night table each week. Anyway I've stored pretty well the info, but without too much metadata! :)

The thing is, I think there was something right with these concept... and at some point the world seemed to work towards such a direction, except that at some point everything was perverted... you know, the normal order on the world beehive resulted too altered... by far too much for any reasonable measure... the queen bees abused their power, the drones felt in drugs to make their lifes more supportables, and the intermediaries felt in extreme greed to fill their pockets!

So... are we the society of the future portrayed on the cover from "Cars, Ships, & Airplanes"? ...no way! ...we are the crappy society that you can watch in an episode of "The Office"... you know, everybody watchs his ass, etc...

We are not even there in the K-Scale... don't be fooled... this is a poor joke from what an advanced civilization would be. And I'm not beeing pessimist, but maybe a bit crude. Try to place our actual world into an episode of "Star Trek", and just try to imagine it, just try. We would be some kind of shame zoo, or something like that... you know, if our destiny is travel along the stars to find a Mother Earth's replacement, we are loosing precious time and resources with each TV, each car, each motorcycle, each reality-show, and each loosy unnecessary thing that is produced by means of resources that we would need to exploit to discover how to produce antimatter for cheap in good quantities, how to suspend human life for 5 years without brain damage, and all the rest...

I share the concepts with VP: I also think that there is another 10% pushing real hard in the right direction. The problem is that masses were probably never more stupid than today... to put it in perspective.

But still, I don't think we are facing the EOTW at 2012. Let's face it: we are a real plague for this planet. A plague worst than cockcroaches for this earth. And plagues are, for any means, anything but easy to kill.

Just my 6.626068 × 10-34 Cents! :)

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Frapazoid wrote:
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Nice trick, Frap!
...you deletted it a fraction of second before a hit "Submit"! :lol:

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Unread postPosted: Fri May 07, 2010 12:28 am 
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My head's not where it ought to be so I'm not gonna post right now. Ate something I shouldn't.

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Unread postPosted: Fri May 07, 2010 10:49 am 
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Frapazoid wrote:

Common 2012 scenarios involve another planet coming out of nowhere and crashing into us. Pole reversal is also popular.



Don't forget those boffins at Meyrin creating a black hole that will put an end to the party. Others have pointed out to the fact that the current wave of global macroseismic activity started after they turned on the switch.

We are unable to drill for oil safely. And we want to recreate the first moments after the BIG BANG? pffft. Seems like one to many boffins have smoked a BIG BONG.

I doubt mankind would be welcome as a galactic traveler. Peddling porn across the universe. Raping and plundering in the name of baby jesus. Brainwashing alien civilizations into buying junk derivatives. For their own good other advaced aliens better be foul tasting, otherwise they'll end up in the deli counter at you local Walmart.

As for the topic of this thread, the Maya were able to create perpetual calendar of Venus, just iook up the codices. So yes, they did know thousands of years in advance where exactly in space Venus would be. Sadly the vast majority of the information the Maya had was destroyed on orders of the church of Rome.

Will 2012 be the end? Who cares.
We are going to see the end of other things before that date.

It sure will be nice to see the end of

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Unread postPosted: Fri May 07, 2010 11:17 am 
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I was wondering about the earthquake thing, I found this:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... 02570.html

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Peddling porn across the universe.


What if aliens want to buy it?

Filler for their version of national geographic.

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aliens better be foul tasting, otherwise they'll end up in the deli counter at you local Walmart.


They are foul tasting, and it doesn't help. The brand name is "Oscar Meyer".

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Peddling porn across the universe.


What if aliens want to buy it?


I don't know if they will buy... but if this is what they have for sale, I can't think of any successful bussiness model to help them! :P

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Unread postPosted: Sat May 08, 2010 1:44 am 
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one problem is that we confuse science (and some of its experiments/achievements) w/ everything else (happiness, evolution, civilization etc). science alone won't solve all our problems. each science boasts a bunch of indexes and graphs, measures something while discarding anything else. we have to start looking at the whole picture.


another basic problem is that we overestimate our (human) kind. up to the point that the us smart, them dumb mindset does not end with puberty as it should. scientists call the mass dumb, artists call the mass dumb, mass call the mass dumb, it's a vicious circle. what a fantastic, reasonable, educated piece of work!


get a bunch of nobel-prized scientists, a bunch of well known artists, a bunch of janitors and some eskimo fishermen. when you're done hearing each other's bragging start discussing about their personal aspects. and hey! they're all facing the exact same issues with their partners and the rest of their (inter)personal aspects. smart what? dumb what?


it feels ok to bitch about the (other) mass, good old placebo pill to make the rest of the titles stand out for a while. it's easy to call now dumb, something that a civilization of the pre-classic period guessed back then. just as it's always easy to blame a majority of the population for reproducing mass media hysteria. when you take them off the g'dang tv box, motivate/educate them, nice things happen. lo + behold the few clowns w/ monkey suits wouldn't like that, gotta keep 'em hypnotized to get the votes on Sunday and keep ripping them off (some people think this is called freedom/democracy). problem is why "we" educated fools fail to recognize the booby-traps.


about those damned sci-fi movies of the 80s? all the fake intelligence and smartassness that they were pushing to the mass for 2000AD?

damn scientists! where is my jetpack?


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This thread sofar reminds me of the eternal dispute between creationists and evolutistionists...According to statistics, 40+% of the American people believe literally in the story of Noah's Arc. How about you Nekochaners?

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Unread postPosted: Sat May 08, 2010 6:28 am 
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I love Josehill's comment from the thread fu linked to:

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We should probably just set up an "Everybody is Evil" forum, an "Everywhere Sucks" forum, and a "The Old Days Were Better" forum.

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^ oh no! semiological catastrophe!

i was just hoping for an open, bare, no masks, no titles discussion…

gonna fix some cocktails, anyone for a drink or two?


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Unread postPosted: Sat May 08, 2010 7:47 am 
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fu wrote:
anyone for a drink or two?
Depends...what do you offer?

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