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Unread postPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 9:52 am 
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not exactly fear blue. my ass was on fire in ny back in 9/11. still in one piece by sheer luck. life's not a pop song kids


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Unread postPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 12:40 pm 
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Of course, I'm with Fu in this one.

I'm on my '40's, and I've already experienced lots of things in this world. Very good things, some not so good, and the gray between them. I've already archived several generations of schedules on my bookshelfs to open new ones, so personal fear is the last one of personal priorities once you learn to live to grow up a family.

Maybe I've not experienced everything yet, but I guess I'm done with enough share of it to roughly understand The Big Picture.

So, the only real conceirn is what kind of world will be left for younger generations... including (of course) my two kids, other kids on the family, and all the rest of the... to let say something... [(>0) & (<20)]

I'm confident they will be clever than us.

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Unread postPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 1:22 pm 
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GeneratriX wrote:
I'm confident they will be clever than us.


Somehow I doubt it.

History has habit of repeating itself, and I am sure the planet will be in even more bad shape after they have done their share of playing with it.


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Unread postPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 1:45 pm 
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theinonen wrote:
Somehow I doubt it.


Well, my statement was more like a expression of wish, or like an imperative if you want.

theinonen wrote:
History has habit of repeating itself, and I am sure the planet will be in even more bad shape after they have done their share of playing with it.


Yes, specially because it is not just the japanese catastrophe. I guess there are tons of other critical subjects to solve, pretty quickly, before the next three hundreed years or less.

Since my youngest childhood I've always loved mountains. And I've always practiced mountainism since my age of 7+, first short walks with family company, and later longer walks and treks without any other accessories than a bottle of watter and some reflex camera, sometimes alone.

What used to be pristine lands free of men abuse, on recent visits showed more and more signs of contamination, human trash, and all the rest. Most part of first line mountains are now mostly screwed. Fauna and flora are mostly ruined. And second line mountains are not easily accesable for trek and walk without carrying lots of food, a tent, and all the rest.

So, what to expect for big cities? I never liked them, they are the real freaky catalog of abuse.

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Unread postPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 2:27 pm 
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Future generations will live what past generations could only imagine and portray in motion pictures.
The best case scenario seems a Mad Max world.

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Unread postPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 2:40 pm 
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zahal wrote:
Future generations will live what past generations could only imagine and portray in motion pictures.
The best case scenario seems a Mad Max world.


I've always be a fan of science fiction and hope that we expand out into the universe and Earth's resources get a reprieve when Earth becomes an insignificant low resource backwater.


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Unread postPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 3:01 pm 
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How's this for science-fiction:

http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/03/ ... test=faces

Maybe they do manage to open up a wormhole right about when TSHTF and someone manages to jump back in time with the Mayas, turning out to be the source of the end of days warning.

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Unread postPosted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 7:27 am 
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Oskar45 wrote:
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Heck, the Fukushima power plant is doing remarkably well after being hit by a magnitude 9 earthquake, a tsunami, a fire, aftershocks ...
Are you really optimistic or just ironic? Seems to me Fukushima can't be saved in any way whatsoever, despite those "50 heroes".


I suppose you could say I was impressed that it could withstand so much damage; the engineers who designed it had probably never foreseen something like this happening.

Things aren't looking very rosy for the plant at the moment, but saying that an event on the scale of Chernobyl could occur as a result is just absurd. The cores have been shut down. The primary containment is still intact. It's designed to withstand a core meltdown, but since it's been put through lots of stress lately, nobody wants to test that scenario, which is why they're still trying to cool the reactors down.

It is definitely a crisis, but not as large as the media portray it to be. I think the real tragedy here is the aftermath of the tsunami -- about half a million people have lost their homes, thousands have died, many are still missing.
I wish these people best of luck.


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ShadeOfBlue wrote:
but saying that an event on the scale of Chernobyl could occur as a result is just absurd.


Indeed it could actually be much much worse; Chernobyl only involved one reactor (initially), where Fukushima has six reactors compromised, one of them using plutonium, with each reactor using tons of zirconium in the zircaloy rods that if heated has the same explosive power as nitroglycerine. All of this happening a couple hundred kilometers from one of the largest cities in one of the most densely populated islands in the world sitting right in the middle of tradewinds.

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zahal wrote:
The best case scenario seems a Mad Max world.


I'm more inclined for WaterWorld, without relation to how bizarre Kevin Costner's performance was for that movie.

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r-ten, can you give sky a hand? he's working on the teleporting machine

a good ol' slap is what the world needs right now


(thanks for the links everyone, i'm trying to grasp the whole of the nuclear story)


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Unread postPosted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 2:43 pm 
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Maybe I will invent a machine that hits people with a wet sock, to be used with Skywriter's teleportation device. So that when for example, someone comes up with the idea of using plutonium, one of the most expensive, toxic and deadly substances ever, to boil water... you teleport this device right then and there, and voila you hit them with a wet sock so they get the hint about their folly.

Sorry for the babbling, we still can't account for some very close friends after the quake. So the situation in Fukushima is turning an already tragic event into something even worse, and that is a feat (and not in a good way).

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nifty! i promise to shoot something really nice for the new machines

not joking either still cant reach anyone. trying to sooth my nerves up w/ groucho's teleporting punchlines

the worst thing i see coming is more buzz about eotw bs @ all reliable media networks around us

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(i'm off for a drink or two and maybe some work on the wiki)


:D


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GeneratriX wrote:
So, what to expect for big cities? I never liked them, they are the real freaky catalog of abuse.

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I was standing quiet alone, in a crowded disco
When a man I did not know showed me the door and told me I had to go
that kind of humiliation never happens on a farm
That's why city living does the pysche such harm

And I said

Fire escapes don't work, until theres a fire
You gotta sleep on the floor, Live in the mud, There's no need to go higher
Once you taste a brick you won't want more
Saving sanity is no trick when your livin' outdoors

Well it did not take me long to realise my mistake
When garbage trucks messed up my dreams, I knew my dreams were fake
I don't know how people gonna live like this
Pigeons might enjoy it but I can't live in this mess

And I said

Fire escapes don't work until theres a fire
You gotta sleep on the floor, live in the mud, there's no need to go higher
Once you taste a brick you can't chew and talk
Saving sanity is a trick when your livin' in a room the size of a shoebox

So finally all the wires and plastic got to me
Ideas and realisations were passing right through me
I did not take a train, a plane or bus with wings
Man wasn't meant to fly
Besides walking does the same thing: gets me outta here

Fire escapes don't work, until theres a fire
You gotta sleep on the floor
Live in the mud
There's no need to go higher
Once you taste a brick you won't want more
Saving sanity is a trick when you livin' on someone elses floor

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